INFO-VAX Wed, 03 Oct 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 539 Contents: Re: Accessing saved registers in condition handlers Re: And the FREE DS10L Winner is Re: And the FREE DS10L Winner is Re: Can't use SIZE and MDTM commands in OpenVMS FTP server Re: lexical for terminal attributes? Re: Time to PAK it in? Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:21:07 -0700 From: j_xenu@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Accessing saved registers in condition handlers Message-ID: <1191370867.626855.126830@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> On Oct 2, 10:47 am, IanMiller wrote: > See the calling standard manualhttp://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/5973/5973pro.html > > and the invocation context routines in the RTLhttp://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/5932/5932pro_023.html#get_cur_i... Thank you. I got what I needed. (they couldn't make it simple, could they?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:14:42 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: And the FREE DS10L Winner is Message-ID: <00A6E897.CDCF39A7@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <13g4mvjfq9jnta3@news.supernews.com>, "David Turner, Island Computers" writes: >Alan Winston >Redwood City, CA Delighted! Hey, I just ordered a keyboard from you. Can you combine shipping? -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:35:30 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: And the FREE DS10L Winner is Message-ID: <4702FFF2.D916157A@spam.comcast.net> Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > > In article <13g4mvjfq9jnta3@news.supernews.com>, "David Turner, Island Computers" writes: > > >Alan Winston > >Redwood City, CA > > Delighted! > > Hey, I just ordered a keyboard from you. Can you combine shipping? > > -- Alan Congrats, Alan! -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:34:06 -0500 From: Hunter Goatley Subject: Re: Can't use SIZE and MDTM commands in OpenVMS FTP server Message-ID: <3kCMi.85012$U24.53900@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Verne wrote: > > Hunter Goatley has a free VMS FTP Server (and optional Client) > available ... > > http://ftp.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/hgftp.zip > [...] > > Not sure if it will solve your problems, but a free alternative. > > > Verne (a happy user of Hunter's software) > Thanks, Verne. HGFTP does support the SIZE and MDTM commands.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ goathunter@goatley.com http://www.goatley.com/hunter/ PreciseMail Anti-Spam Gateway ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:34:42 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: lexical for terminal attributes? Message-ID: <4702FFC2.D381C2FF@spam.comcast.net> briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: > [snip] > When you're plugged directly into the console port from your workstation's > COM1, you don't have any out-of-band data path. All you're passing is > the character data. And window size isn't carried in the character data > stream. Figgered (Fingered) as much... ;-) -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:49:29 -0700 From: john.egolf@digital.com Subject: Re: Time to PAK it in? Message-ID: <1191372569.840855.187020@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> All, The current OpenVMS I64 PAKs didn't include an OE PAK due to an oversight by my part. Any DSPP member needing it just needs to contact me at my HP mail address and you'll receive it. I'd suggest to all to not get so worked up about something so simple - a human mistake - not an overt action against VMS. The DSPP Program is an important HP program with its partners. There are no plans to make any major changes in the way PAKs are distributed. As for the FOE vs. MCOE PAK discussion, VMS management reviews what our partners need and make changes. Clustering is included in the existing DSPP PAKs; as for other differences between the collection of all the DSPP PAKs for I64 and what MCOE vs. FOE may provide just let us know what you need and why. We're here to stay in business and if you can help we'll work with you. DSPP members "Please see http://www.hp.com/go/paks or if you have questions of problems, call [North America only] (800) 249-3294" Now, take a deep breath; count to 30; and get back to work :-) /John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:31:27 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow Message-ID: Hi Brian, > If Richard can figure out why it bombs in Safari and fix it, I'll take a > looksee at it again -- with or without the *window* resizing. I don't know Safari (apart from the words "Safari" and "hell" tuering up regularly in comp.lang.javascript in regular succession :-) but The Stig has previously stated that he got it working with the following versions: - Safari Version 2.0.4 (419.3) Java Plug-in 1.5.0 Using JRE version 1.5.0_07 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM Are your versions higher or lower than those? If you haven't already done so then, for an up to date JRE, please visit: - http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp Apart from that is there any chance of any diagnostic info other than "It doesn't like running in Safari "? IE pops up that yellow triangle that can be double-click on for some useless error message :-( Firefox's error console (tools) is very useful for JavaScript errors, but FireBug is absolutely brilliant at stepping through JavaScript and mousing over variables (while the wankers at DECforms still look us in the eye and have the nerve to say "You are on the left side of the equation!) Also, (and just as likely) you firewall could be blocking the outgoing connection? Can you turn on the Java Console to see the trace of any error messages? Something like Settings -> Control Panel -> Java Plug-in -> Console on Apart from that I guess the 2% of the 2% will never get to see the demo :-) Cheers Richard Maher wrote in message news:80qMi.3$Iu7.1@newsfe12.lga... > In article , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= writes: > > > > > >Richard Maher wrote: > >> Hi Paul, > >> > >>> I also don't like any website resizing my browser windows, so I'll add a > >>> "me too" vote. > >> > >> Yep, never mind the fact that the underlying infrastructure is so fast that > >> it can request the server to do a $getqui for a matching queues in between > >> echoing each keystroke for the Queue Name - Never mind that the server is a > >> crappy vax (sorry Graham :-) in Florida - It resizes the damn screen! That's > >> what's important! > >> > >> Seemless, unprivileged (at least on Alpha) client impersonation? Who cares? > >> > >> Cheers Richard Maher > >> > > > >I must second Richard here. I also was a bit dissaponted > >how this quite nice technical demo could turn into a > >rather childish screen-rezising issue... > > I have yet to see what it does other than resize my window. It doesn't > like running in Safari so I've no idea if it's a "quite nice technical > demo" or not. However, I didn't feel that the discussion of the window- > resizing was puerile; it was constructive user feedback. Those able to > run the demo did not like their screen being resized. > > If Richard can figure out why it bombs in Safari and fix it, I'll take a > looksee at it again -- with or without the *window* resizing. > > -- > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > > "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" > > http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:38:11 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow Message-ID: Hi Paul, > Childish? It was meant as a constructive comment, that's all. Dont' turn it > into a slagging off fest Lighten up Paul, I know you made constructive comments before, and about the login fails, it's just that (in the grans scheme of things) I expected the VMS technies to focus on things other than resizing or choice of colors. But if you want to stop the resizing on your own copy then just remove this line from DEM_CLIENT_WEB.HTML: - top.resizeTo(screen.availWidth,screen.availHeight); I think you'll find that the screens now look crap but OTY. Cheers Richard Maher "P. Sture" wrote in message news:paul.sture.nospam-FC24D6.09140002102007@mac.sture.ch... > In article , > Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > > > Richard Maher wrote: > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > >> I also don't like any website resizing my browser windows, so I'll add a > > >> "me too" vote. > > > > > > Yep, never mind the fact that the underlying infrastructure is so fast that > > > it can request the server to do a $getqui for a matching queues in between > > > echoing each keystroke for the Queue Name - Never mind that the server is a > > > crappy vax (sorry Graham :-) in Florida - It resizes the damn screen! That's > > > what's important! > > > > > > Seemless, unprivileged (at least on Alpha) client impersonation? Who cares? > > > > > > Cheers Richard Maher > > > > > > > I must second Richard here. I also was a bit dissaponted > > how this quite nice technical demo could turn into a > > rather childish screen-rezising issue... > > > > Childish? It was meant as a constructive comment, that's all. Dont' turn it > into a slagging off fest > > -- > Paul Sture > > Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: > http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:28:17 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow Message-ID: Richard Maher wrote: > Apart from that I guess the 2% of the 2% will never get to see the demo :-) Typical Microsoft-slave mentality. Like Bell Canada claiming that since 99% of their customers use Microsoft, there is no need to support other browsers (their web site used to block anyone not using Microsoft browser, hence the statistics). I won't even bother trying your demo because I have rarely ever gotten a JAVA thing to run on VMS so I don't bother wasting time trying JAVA stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:53:26 -0400 From: bradhamilton Subject: Re: Web-based VMS Que Monitor for Deathrow Message-ID: <4702E806.5070402@comcast.net> JF Mezei wrote: > Richard Maher wrote: > >> Apart from that I guess the 2% of the 2% will never get to see the >> demo :-) Please don't feed the trolls! :-) > Typical Microsoft-slave mentality. Like Bell Canada claiming that since > 99% of their customers use Microsoft, there is no need to support other > browsers (their web site used to block anyone not using Microsoft > browser, hence the statistics). Oops, too late. :-) The demo works on non-M$oft platforms, if one is willing to use Linux/Firefox. I realize it doesn't have the panache that MacOSX has, but it's a reasonable substitute, and is affordable to a larger segment of the population than Mac is. > I won't even bother trying your demo because I have rarely ever gotten a > JAVA thing to run on VMS so I don't bother wasting time trying JAVA stuff. Unfortunately, the owners of VMS decided long ago that VMS was not meant for the desktop. Nothing, short of you and I buying VMS from its owners, will ever change that fact. It's about time that folks recognize that reality, deal with it, and move on. The alternatives, enumerated above, are more than adequate for the task(s) at hand. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.539 ************************