INFO-VAX	Thu, 06 Dec 2007	Volume 2007 : Issue 667

   Contents:
Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code
Re: And the XP1000 winner is...
find a man at www.SexDatingPoint.com
Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Re: Latest TCPware DRIVERS patch seems to break inbound DECnet
Re: Latest TCPware DRIVERS patch seems to break inbound DECnet
Re: Locating access violation in a link map
Re: Locating access violation in a link map
Re: Locating access violation in a link map
Re: Locating access violation in a link map
OT: "Inventory Control" for non-VMS
Re: OT: "Inventory Control" for non-VMS
Re: OT: "Inventory Control" for non-VMS
Proxy FTP with Digital TCPIP Services
Re: Proxy FTP with Digital TCPIP Services
Suggestions for Configuring Reflection/X
Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Re: Unix for VMS guys
Re: Unix for VMS guys
Re: Unix for VMS guys
Re: Unix for VMS guys
Re: Unix for VMS guys
Re: Unix for VMS guys
Re: validate username/password against UAF using java ?
Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
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Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:26:53 -0700
From: "Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam>
Subject: Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code
Message-ID: <13legei1n20pn41@corp.supernews.com>

"Bob Koehler" <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message 
news:+2sYg8VS1uhI@eisner.encompasserve.org...
> In article 
> <04e34ed2-5f6d-486b-a38f-684cb2729954@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, 
> FrankS <sapienza@noesys.com> writes:
>> On Nov 29, 11:36 pm, s...@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote:
>>>    How pure?  A DUMP of the first block might say something to someone.
>>> DUMP /BYTE /BLOCK = END = 1 <file>
>>
>> Very pure.
>>
>> There is no discernable plain-text signature at either the beginning
>> or end of the file.
>
>   Just a guess, but because of the time era, I'd try converting several
>   bytes as if they were EBCDIC.
>


I did using three different EBCDIC to ASCII tables and got gibberish each 
time.

Mike Ober.

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 16:49:49 -0600
From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: And the XP1000 winner is...
Message-ID: <izBRoK1IlhI5@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <MPG.21c0a02c1b13d17698977d@news.bellatlantic.net>, John Santos <john.santos@post.harvard.edu> writes:
> In article <13lauvbiteje761@news.supernews.com>, dturner@no-spam-
> islandco.com says...
>> 
>> gwilliams@cfa.harvard.edu
>> Gareth Williams

> Congrats, Gareth!  However, to bad if something were to happen
> to the UPS truck as it makes the turn from Grove St onto Huron
> Ave (one block from here.)  I'm just sayin'..

To guard against such possibilities, Gareth has strung electric
wires above Huron Avenue, two over each lane.  Beware of his trap !

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:59:59 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Message-ID: <3rD5j.28$k53.4@newsfe09.lga>

In article <5ro5epF15iprdU1@mid.individual.net>, billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>
>
>In article <jpBsKCyvqsuz@eisner.encompasserve.org>,
>	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:
>> In article <4754B0E2.6060703@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>>> 
>>> You are too kind!   I'd fire the boob who wrote the program that 
>>> required several hundred arguments!
>> 
>>    You'ld have to fire just about everyone that ever wrote a UNIX
>>    utility.  Remember in UNIX shells, the shell expands the wildcards.
>>    So if you have 200 files in a directory and enter "program *", then
>>    that program sees 200 arguments.
> 
>Unix has finite limits too.
>
>From /usr/include/errno.h
>
>#define E2BIG           7               /* Argument list too long */
>
>No OS that I am aware of can deal with an infinite number of anything!!
>Not even VMS.

As an aggregate, Weendoze systems are asymptotically approaching the
infinite number of reboots. :)


-- 
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
           
  "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" 

http://tmesis.com/drat.html

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:03:19 -0500
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Message-ID: <47572E37.4090106@comcast.net>

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <4756D713.9060904@comcast.net>,
> 	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
> 
>>Bob Koehler wrote:
>>
>>>In article <4754B0E2.6060703@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>You are too kind!   I'd fire the boob who wrote the program that 
>>>>required several hundred arguments!
>>>
>>>
>>>   You'ld have to fire just about everyone that ever wrote a UNIX
>>>   utility. 
>>
>>Small loss!  ;-)
>>
>>It's a big help to have some understanding of the O/S (s) that you are 
>>writing for.
>>
>>How many times, back in the 1980s and early 1990s did we hear from some 
>>Unix type who wondered why his program ran like a dog on VMS?  The 
>>problem frequently turned out to be some outrageous abuse of what is 
>>good programming practice on VMS.  
> 
> 
> Or we could turn it around and just admit that this was caused by
> a VMS shortcoming compared to Unix!!
> 
> Like the following!!
> 
> 
>>                                  We'd see people doing bizarre things 
>>like putting 10,000 twenty-seven byte files in one directory. . . .
> 
>  
> We all know the other OS that has a real problem with too many files
> in one directrory, now, don't we??

What is your point Bill?

A Telephone  directory can easily handle 10,000 or 100,000 entries. 
File directories are customarily much smaller.  We would use an indexed 
file with 10,000 twenty-seven byte records rather than a directory. 
Unix users are not so fortunate and would have to "roll their own" 
indexed files if they didn't want to use a directory.

I design or select my applications to fit the O/S available.  If no 
appropriate design or selection fitted the characteristics of the O/S, 
I'd look for an O/S that was a better match for the job I was trying to 
do.  I can choose from Windows, VMS, Solaris, and Red Hat Linux.  There 
are, of course, still other options; I just don't happen to have the 
necessary hardware/software on hand.

I don't know of ANY O/S where I would put 10,000 files in a single 
directory!

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:19:39 -0500
From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Subject: Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Message-ID: <df47c$4757320b$cef8887a$5445@TEKSAVVY.COM>

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> #define E2BIG           7               /* Argument list too long */
> 
> No OS that I am aware of can deal with an infinite number of anything!!
> Not even VMS.


VMS has so far survived an infinite amount of mismanagement -)

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Date: 6 Dec 2007 01:34:58 GMT
From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Subject: Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Message-ID: <5rp1u1F15f91aU1@mid.individual.net>

In article <47572E37.4090106@comcast.net>,
	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <4756D713.9060904@comcast.net>,
>> 	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>> 
>>>Bob Koehler wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <4754B0E2.6060703@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You are too kind!   I'd fire the boob who wrote the program that 
>>>>>required several hundred arguments!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   You'ld have to fire just about everyone that ever wrote a UNIX
>>>>   utility. 
>>>
>>>Small loss!  ;-)
>>>
>>>It's a big help to have some understanding of the O/S (s) that you are 
>>>writing for.
>>>
>>>How many times, back in the 1980s and early 1990s did we hear from some 
>>>Unix type who wondered why his program ran like a dog on VMS?  The 
>>>problem frequently turned out to be some outrageous abuse of what is 
>>>good programming practice on VMS.  
>> 
>> 
>> Or we could turn it around and just admit that this was caused by
>> a VMS shortcoming compared to Unix!!
>> 
>> Like the following!!
>> 
>> 
>>>                                  We'd see people doing bizarre things 
>>>like putting 10,000 twenty-seven byte files in one directory. . . .
>> 
>>  
>> We all know the other OS that has a real problem with too many files
>> in one directrory, now, don't we??
> 
> What is your point Bill?
> 
> A Telephone  directory can easily handle 10,000 or 100,000 entries. 
> File directories are customarily much smaller.  We would use an indexed 
> file with 10,000 twenty-seven byte records rather than a directory. 
> Unix users are not so fortunate and would have to "roll their own" 
> indexed files if they didn't want to use a directory.
> 
> I design or select my applications to fit the O/S available.  If no 
> appropriate design or selection fitted the characteristics of the O/S, 
> I'd look for an O/S that was a better match for the job I was trying to 
> do.  I can choose from Windows, VMS, Solaris, and Red Hat Linux.  There 
> are, of course, still other options; I just don't happen to have the 
> necessary hardware/software on hand.
> 
> I don't know of ANY O/S where I would put 10,000 files in a single 
> directory!

Never ran a USENET News Server, huh?

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   

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Date: 6 Dec 2007 01:35:59 GMT
From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Subject: Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Message-ID: <5rp1vuF15f91aU2@mid.individual.net>

In article <df47c$4757320b$cef8887a$5445@teksavvy.com>,
	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> #define E2BIG           7               /* Argument list too long */
>> 
>> No OS that I am aware of can deal with an infinite number of anything!!
>> Not even VMS.
> 
> 
> VMS has so far survived an infinite amount of mismanagement -)

Got to admit, you got me there!!   :-)

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:06:16 -0500
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: FW: Passing large number of arguments to a program
Message-ID: <47575918.9090205@comcast.net>

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <47572E37.4090106@comcast.net>,
> 	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
> 
>>Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>
>>>In article <4756D713.9060904@comcast.net>,
>>>	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bob Koehler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <4754B0E2.6060703@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You are too kind!   I'd fire the boob who wrote the program that 
>>>>>>required several hundred arguments!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  You'ld have to fire just about everyone that ever wrote a UNIX
>>>>>  utility. 
>>>>
>>>>Small loss!  ;-)
>>>>
>>>>It's a big help to have some understanding of the O/S (s) that you are 
>>>>writing for.
>>>>
>>>>How many times, back in the 1980s and early 1990s did we hear from some 
>>>>Unix type who wondered why his program ran like a dog on VMS?  The 
>>>>problem frequently turned out to be some outrageous abuse of what is 
>>>>good programming practice on VMS.  
>>>
>>>
>>>Or we could turn it around and just admit that this was caused by
>>>a VMS shortcoming compared to Unix!!
>>>
>>>Like the following!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>                                 We'd see people doing bizarre things 
>>>>like putting 10,000 twenty-seven byte files in one directory. . . .
>>>
>>> 
>>>We all know the other OS that has a real problem with too many files
>>>in one directrory, now, don't we??
>>
>>What is your point Bill?
>>
>>A Telephone  directory can easily handle 10,000 or 100,000 entries. 
>>File directories are customarily much smaller.  We would use an indexed 
>>file with 10,000 twenty-seven byte records rather than a directory. 
>>Unix users are not so fortunate and would have to "roll their own" 
>>indexed files if they didn't want to use a directory.
>>
>>I design or select my applications to fit the O/S available.  If no 
>>appropriate design or selection fitted the characteristics of the O/S, 
>>I'd look for an O/S that was a better match for the job I was trying to 
>>do.  I can choose from Windows, VMS, Solaris, and Red Hat Linux.  There 
>>are, of course, still other options; I just don't happen to have the 
>>necessary hardware/software on hand.
>>
>>I don't know of ANY O/S where I would put 10,000 files in a single 
>>directory!
> 
> 
> Never ran a USENET News Server, huh?
> 
> bill
> 

No!  I never had the need!  I probably wouldn't have been allowed to 
even if I had wanted to.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:19:10 GMT
From: John Santos <john.santos@post.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Latest TCPware DRIVERS patch seems to break inbound DECnet
Message-ID: <MPG.21c0c39865d4049d98977f@news.bellatlantic.net>

In article <3fm5j.2250$UG1.300@trnddc01>, john@egh.com says...
> adamwilliam@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Nov 13, 2:12 am, John Santos <john.san...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > 
> >>Heads-up to all...
> > 
> > 
> > Have just realised we have the same problem after patch upgrades at
> > the weekend.  Will look into the fix you describe above, but was
> > wondering if Process have been in touch regarding this issue?  I cant
> > see anything on their site and the patches installed were only
> > downloaded at the weekend.
> > 
> > Many thanks!
> > 
> > Adam
> 
>  From a response from Process on vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.tcpware, it
> seems they thought it was fixed in V8.1, but I'm 99% sure it was
> broken there too, and interpret the response I received when I
> reported the problem to them that they were going to fix it in a
> new (post V8.1) version of the patch.
> 
> So I've been waiting for a patch, but Process thought they had already
> fixed it.  Hopefully, they now realize it is still an issue.

I tried patch drivers_v572p081 again, it definitely still shows the
problem on Alpha VMS V8.3.


-- 
John

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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:06:29 GMT
From: John Santos <john@egh.com>
Subject: Re: Latest TCPware DRIVERS patch seems to break inbound DECnet
Message-ID: <VGJ5j.17115$o_6.14981@trnddc08>

John Santos wrote:
> In article <3fm5j.2250$UG1.300@trnddc01>, john@egh.com says...
> 
>>adamwilliam@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 13, 2:12 am, John Santos <john.san...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Heads-up to all...
>>>
>>>
>>>Have just realised we have the same problem after patch upgrades at
>>>the weekend.  Will look into the fix you describe above, but was
>>>wondering if Process have been in touch regarding this issue?  I cant
>>>see anything on their site and the patches installed were only
>>>downloaded at the weekend.
>>>
>>>Many thanks!
>>>
>>>Adam
>>
>> From a response from Process on vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.tcpware, it
>>seems they thought it was fixed in V8.1, but I'm 99% sure it was
>>broken there too, and interpret the response I received when I
>>reported the problem to them that they were going to fix it in a
>>new (post V8.1) version of the patch.
>>
>>So I've been waiting for a patch, but Process thought they had already
>>fixed it.  Hopefully, they now realize it is still an issue.
> 
> 
> I tried patch drivers_v572p081 again, it definitely still shows the
> problem on Alpha VMS V8.3.

Today I received a test version of the next DRIVERS patch and it
fixes the problem on both VAX and Alpha.  I expect it will be
generally available Real Soon Now.


-- 
John Santos
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
781-861-0670 ext 539

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:25:46 -0800 (PST)
From: tadamsmar <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Locating access violation in a link map
Message-ID: <5fc0b650-4db5-40bf-8fdf-c9c9432c641d@y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>

On Dec 5, 1:36 pm, Bob Gezelter <gezel...@rlgsc.com> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 1:30 pm, tadamsmar <tadams...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I had an access violation in some code put into production.  We can't
> > reproduce it.
>
> > I can make a link map of the executable.  But I was wondering if it is
> > possible to relate
> > the virtual address or the program counter identified in the access
> > violation to the link map in order to learn more about the location of
> > the access violation.
>
> tadamsmar,
>
> In a word, yes. I have done this many times for clients, and a couple
> of times for myself when an error seemed, at first glance, to be
> inexplicable..
>
> You will need the LINK map, and you will also need the /MACHINE_CODE
> listings of the relevant module(s) to identify the precise point of
> failure. A note of caution, tracking these can be a challenge if the
> code has been compiled with optimization.
>
> - Bob Gezelter,http://www.rlgsc.com

Thanks.  Turned out to be easier than that.  Had me stumped at first
because the virtual address seemed to be too big.  Then I noticed that
it corresponded to a error message symbol.

Forgot to put %loc on the message which was declared as a external in
Fortran.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:08:51 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: Locating access violation in a link map
Message-ID: <nzD5j.29$k53.9@newsfe09.lga>

In article <0424d335-4a64-4264-b665-92e647984c87@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, tadamsmar <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>I had an access violation in some code put into production.  We can't
>reproduce it.
>
>I can make a link map of the executable.  But I was wondering if it is
>possible to relate
>the virtual address or the program counter identified in the access
>violation to the link map in order to learn more about the location of
>the access violation.

Yes.


-- 
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
           
  "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" 

http://tmesis.com/drat.html

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 16:44:08 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: Locating access violation in a link map
Message-ID: <yblcHZZSHnad@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <0424d335-4a64-4264-b665-92e647984c87@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, tadamsmar <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> writes:
> I had an access violation in some code put into production.  We can't
> reproduce it.
> 
> I can make a link map of the executable.  But I was wondering if it is
> possible to relate
> the virtual address or the program counter identified in the access
> violation to the link map in order to learn more about the location of
> the access violation.

   Yep.  The link map will tell you where the code for each routine
   starts (look for $CODE PSECT).  The offset into the code corresponds
   to the instruction you'll see when you add /list/machine_code or
   something like that when you compile.  And comments in the
   instruction listing will help you find the line of code in a higher
   level language.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:36:14 -0500
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Locating access violation in a link map
Message-ID: <475735EE.5070608@comcast.net>

tadamsmar wrote:
> I had an access violation in some code put into production.  We can't
> reproduce it.
> 
> I can make a link map of the executable.  But I was wondering if it is
> possible to relate
> the virtual address or the program counter identified in the access
> violation to the link map in order to learn more about the location of
> the access violation.

That's the usual approach.  Frequently the ACCVIO triggers an exception 
handler that will output a traceback showing not only the location of 
the ACCVIO but also how the program got to the particular subroutine in 
which the exception occurred.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:38:49 -0600
From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net>
Subject: OT: "Inventory Control" for non-VMS
Message-ID: <47570C59.DF27075C@spam.comcast.net>

Apologies for the OT post. I know some of my fellow VMSers here are also
AIX knowledgeable.

I'm looking for any tools that anyone is aware of which will allow me to
keep files synchronized across multiple AIX instances (LPARs). We lose
the shared disk paradigm of OpenVMS clusters. Hence, scripts, etc. must
be copied to each individual instance's private storage. 

Any tips that anyone might have would be most helpful.

I asked this question on the Cerner listserv and got no responses.

David J Dachtera
DJE Systems

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:32:35 +0100
From: Marc Van Dyck <marc.vandyck@brutele.be>
Subject: Re: OT: "Inventory Control" for non-VMS
Message-ID: <mn.2d487d7c074e88a9.30579@brutele.be>

David J Dachtera wrote on 5/12/2007 :
> Apologies for the OT post. I know some of my fellow VMSers here are also
> AIX knowledgeable.
>
> I'm looking for any tools that anyone is aware of which will allow me to
> keep files synchronized across multiple AIX instances (LPARs). We lose
> the shared disk paradigm of OpenVMS clusters. Hence, scripts, etc. must
> be copied to each individual instance's private storage. 
>
> Any tips that anyone might have would be most helpful.
>
> I asked this question on the Cerner listserv and got no responses.
>
> David J Dachtera
> DJE Systems

Some plumbing with NFS, MAKE, and CRON will do the trick, won't it ?

-- 
Marc Van Dyck

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 16:45:33 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: OT: "Inventory Control" for non-VMS
Message-ID: <B0+xpa33IQgS@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <47570C59.DF27075C@spam.comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> writes:
> Apologies for the OT post. I know some of my fellow VMSers here are also
> AIX knowledgeable.
> 
> I'm looking for any tools that anyone is aware of which will allow me to
> keep files synchronized across multiple AIX instances (LPARs). We lose
> the shared disk paradigm of OpenVMS clusters. Hence, scripts, etc. must
> be copied to each individual instance's private storage. 
> 
> Any tips that anyone might have would be most helpful.
> 
> I asked this question on the Cerner listserv and got no responses.

   Most folks use rsynch.  I'm sure there are others.

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:50:04 -0500
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij@panix.com>
Subject: Proxy FTP with Digital TCPIP Services
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.0712060044190.22119@panix1.panix.com>

Hello, all.

How does one set up Digital TCPIP Services (UCX) to connect thru a proxy 
ftp server? Also, how does one enable the VMS system to receive ftp 
connections thru a proxy ftp server?

T I A!

Mike Freeman
Bonneville Power Administration

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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:00:41 -0600 (CST)
From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)
Subject: Re: Proxy FTP with Digital TCPIP Services
Message-ID: <07120600004124_202647DE@antinode.org>

From: Mike Freeman <k7uij@panix.com>

> How does one set up Digital TCPIP Services (UCX) to connect thru a proxy 
> ftp server?

   I could be wrong, but I doubt that the TCPIP FTP client knows what a
proxy server is.  Programs like wget and cURL (and others?) may be
better able to handle a proxy server, but wget is fetch-only.  (I don't
use cURL enough to know its limitations.)

   Which FTP proxy server?  Some, I gather, expect to use HTTP with the
client to do FTP with the server, but I'm on thin ice here.

>  Also, how does one enable the VMS system to receive ftp 
> connections thru a proxy ftp server?

   I'd reckon that that's more of a problem for the FTP proxy server. 
Judging from some of the junk in my FTP server log, some FTP proxy
servers lack the ability to deal with a VMS DIRECTORY-format file
listing.

   As usual, TCPIP SHOW VERSION output may affect the results of an
inquiry like this.

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   Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
   382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
   Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:33:42 -0600
From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net>
Subject: Suggestions for Configuring Reflection/X
Message-ID: <47570B26.C667BF12@spam.comcast.net>

Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for configuring
Reflection/X to work with DECwindows or AIXwindows.

Specifically, I'm looking to find out if the mouse wheel and can be made
to work with AIX/DECwindows applications (dtterm, text editor, etc.).

Any pointers/links, etc. would be greatly appreciated.

Key mapping tips, tricks and gotchas would also be helpful.

TIA.

David J Dachtera
DJE Systems

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 14:06:37 -0600
From: burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org (Graham Burley)
Subject: Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Message-ID: <+jKMuTpRGj$q@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <OF4831E900.B85D0323-ON852573A8.00659AA4-852573A8.0065E12D@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes:

> My problem is not the media itself, but that i don't know which set or 
> what it is called on the media.

IIRC it was on the E-Business Solutions CD

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:40:47 -0500
From: norm.raphael@metso.com
Subject: Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Message-ID: <OFC6984EE7.5F368784-ON852573A8.00718E2B-852573A8.00719927@metso.com>

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Thanks,

Is that one in the quarterlies or with the OpenVMS?



burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org (Graham Burley) wrote on 
12/05/2007 03:06:37 PM:

> In article <OF4831E900.B85D0323-ON852573A8.00659AA4-852573A8.
> 0065E12D@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes:
> 
> > My problem is not the media itself, but that i don't know which set or 

> > what it is called on the media.
> 
> IIRC it was on the E-Business Solutions CD

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Is that one in the quarterlies or with
the OpenVMS?</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org (Graham
Burley) wrote on 12/05/2007 03:06:37 PM:<br>
<br>
&gt; In article &lt;OF4831E900.B85D0323-ON852573A8.00659AA4-852573A8.<br>
&gt; 0065E12D@metso.com&gt;, norm.raphael@metso.com writes:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; My problem is not the media itself, but that i don't know which
set or <br>
&gt; &gt; what it is called on the media.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; IIRC it was on the E-Business Solutions CD<br>
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:06:57 -0600 (CST)
From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)
Subject: Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Message-ID: <07120515065738_202647DE@antinode.org>

From: norm.raphael@metso.com

> burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org (Graham Burley) wrote on 
> 12/05/2007 03:06:37 PM:

> > IIRC it was on the E-Business Solutions CD

> Is that one in the quarterlies or with the OpenVMS?

   Unless I've mixed things up, mine (e-Business Infrastructure, V1.4,
April 2003) came with my SLP Q3 CY2003, but I didn't see a loose SSL kit
on mine, only SSL within CSWS.  I'm guessing that your search will not
end here.

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   Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
   382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
   Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:01:14 -0500
From: norm.raphael@metso.com
Subject: Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Message-ID: <OFF55B9C5B.C218C436-ON852573A8.0078B8EA-852573A8.0078F69C@metso.com>

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sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote on 12/05/2007 04:06:57 PM:

> From: norm.raphael@metso.com
> 
> > burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org (Graham Burley) wrote on 
> > 12/05/2007 03:06:37 PM:
> 
> > > IIRC it was on the E-Business Solutions CD
> 
> > Is that one in the quarterlies or with the OpenVMS?
> 
>    Unless I've mixed things up, mine (e-Business Infrastructure, V1.4,
> April 2003) came with my SLP Q3 CY2003, but I didn't see a loose SSL kit
> on mine, only SSL within CSWS.  I'm guessing that your search will not
> end here.
> 

Yes,  I talked with HP support a few minutes ago and the consensus was 
that it never shipped on a CD, despite what another support resource had 
told me.  He is looking for a distribution that I can download, but 
suggests that V1.3 will probably work.

Thanks for your efforts.  (I'll let you know.)

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org
>    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818
>    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547

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<br><font size=2><tt>sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote on 12/05/2007
04:06:57 PM:<br>
<br>
&gt; From: norm.raphael@metso.com<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org (Graham Burley) wrote
on <br>
&gt; &gt; 12/05/2007 03:06:37 PM:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; IIRC it was on the E-Business Solutions CD<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Is that one in the quarterlies or with the OpenVMS?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;Unless I've mixed things up, mine (e-Business Infrastructure,
V1.4,<br>
&gt; April 2003) came with my SLP Q3 CY2003, but I didn't see a loose SSL
kit<br>
&gt; on mine, only SSL within CSWS. &nbsp;I'm guessing that your search
will not<br>
&gt; end here.<br>
&gt; </tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>Yes, &nbsp;I talked with HP support a few minutes
ago and the consensus was </tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>that it never shipped on a CD, despite what another
support resource had </tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>told me. &nbsp;He is looking for a distribution that
I can download, but </tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>suggests that V1.3 will probably work.</tt></font>
<br>
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&gt; <br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;Steven M. Schweda &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; sms@antinode-org<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;382 South Warwick Street &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(+1)
651-699-9818<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;Saint Paul &nbsp;MN &nbsp;55105-2547<br>
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Date: 5 Dec 2007 17:23:12 -0600
From: burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org (Graham Burley)
Subject: Re: Trying to Locate HP SSL Version 1.2 on CDROM
Message-ID: <ULoMkyfDLCL7@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <OFF55B9C5B.C218C436-ON852573A8.0078B8EA-852573A8.0078F69C@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes:

> Yes,  I talked with HP support a few minutes ago and the consensus was 
> that it never shipped on a CD, despite what another support resource had 
> told me.  He is looking for a distribution that I can download, but 
> suggests that V1.3 will probably work.

Sorry. As it happens I do have a copy of the Alpha SSL V1.2 kit, but
no idea where from. The release notes say:

      hp SSL for OpenVMS
      V1.2 Release Notes
      December 2004
      Based on OpenSSL 0.9.7d

And the .PCSI$DESCRIPTION says "DEC AXPVMS VMS version minimum V7.2"

Drop me a line if you need it.

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 19:12:42 GMT
From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Subject: Re: Unix for VMS guys
Message-ID: <5robhaF156uouU1@mid.individual.net>

In article <Wnwo5TzSWDR5@eisner.encompasserve.org>,
	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:
> In article <4f3fd$47568626$cef8887a$30510@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:
>> There used to be sites that provides much help in converting VMS 
>> commands into Unix commands.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a current link for such ?
>> 
>> Also, would there be a site describing control character equivalences ?
>> (for instance, in VMS, <ctrl-T> during a program gives you a status of 
>> that program, <ctrl-h> gets you to start of line <ctrl-o> supressed 
>> output until the next major breakpoint etc etc. Having equivalences for 
>> Unix would be useful.
> 
>   Well, for control-T your out of luck, unless you add it yourself.
>   For the others there are several books and cheatsheets available
>   if you look for them.

I don't know what, exactly, you get with ^T on VMS but the example
given by someone else here works just fine on the versions of Unix
I run here.

bill
 

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   

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Date: 05 Dec 2007 17:11:23 -0500
From: Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Subject: Re: Unix for VMS guys
Message-ID: <mddy7c8pzas.fsf@panix5.panix.com>

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:

> Also, would there be a site describing control character equivalences ?
> (for instance, in VMS, <ctrl-T> during a program gives you a status of 
> that program, <ctrl-h> gets you to start of line <ctrl-o> supressed 
> output until the next major breakpoint etc etc. Having equivalences for 
> Unix would be useful.

More generally than the answers already given, you should read the manual page
for the stty command.  It's ugly, but it will tell you all the things you can
set a character to do for you (and they don't *have* to be control characters
in all cases).

	shellprompt# man stty

-- 
Rich Alderson                  "You get what anybody gets. You get a lifetime."
news@alderson.users.panix.com                           --Death, of the Endless

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:14:50 -0500
From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Subject: Re: Unix for VMS guys
Message-ID: <111be$475730eb$cef8887a$5445@TEKSAVVY.COM>

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

> RUN AUTHORIZE			vi /etc/passwd

The mac has the "netinfo" GUI application to manage the accounts and a 
lot more.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:29:01 -0500
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Unix for VMS guys
Message-ID: <4757343D.8090109@comcast.net>

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <4756D088.2070604@comcast.net>,
> 	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
> 
>>Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>
>>>In article <4756B367.9000208@comcast.net>,
>>>	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>JF Mezei wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>There used to be sites that provides much help in converting VMS 
>>>>>commands into Unix commands.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone have a current link for such ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, would there be a site describing control character equivalences ?
>>>>>(for instance, in VMS, <ctrl-T> during a program gives you a status of 
>>>>>that program, <ctrl-h> gets you to start of line <ctrl-o> supressed 
>>>>>output until the next major breakpoint etc etc. Having equivalences for 
>>>>>Unix would be useful.
>>>>
>>>>I don't know of one.
>>>>
>>>>There is, or was, a book called "Unix for VMS Users" by Philip Bourne. 
>>>>See the VMS Bibliography on my web page for publication details:
>>>>/http://home.comcast.net/~rgilbert88/VMS_Bibliography.html
>>>>
>>>>It offers some guidance.
>>>>
>>>>Better would be a good book on Unix in general and one on the shell you 
>>>>wish to use.  The Bourne (not the same Bourne) shell is pretty much 
>>>>mandatory for some things; e.g. working as root.
>>>>
>>>>There are also the Korn shell (ksh), the C shell (csh), the Bourne Again 
>>>>shell (bash), tcsh, zsh. . . . and the roll of shame goes on!
>>>>
>>>>You might even try "man -k 'control characters'".
>>>
>>>
>>>Funny how this question keeps popping up and yet when I suggested that
>>>a more up to date book dealing with this was needed the pretty much
>>>unanimous opinion was that one was not neither needed or desired.
>>>Go figure!!
>>>
>>
>>If someone wrote it, who would publish it?  
> 
> 
> Well, I would probably try O'Reilly first.  I have bought a number
> of books from them and will likely buy many more.
> 
> 
>>                                            Who would buy it?
> 
> 
> Well, for starters, possibly all the people who show up here asking
> the question that re-animates this discussion every month or two.
> And then, sadly for VMS, all the people who have never worked with
> VMS who now find themselves involved in moving all the company's
> legacy VMS apps(1) that have been happily running for years without
> anyone paying attention to them over to that flashy new Linux box.
> 
> (1)  You know the apps I mean.  The ones that have been running the
> business so long without a problem that the last guy who knew anything
> about them retired 5 years ago.
> 
> 
>>Writing a book represents a substantial effort; I'd guess six to twelve 
>>man-months as a minimum.  Getting one published is difficult and 
>>represents a substantial expense.  For a volume that might sell five 
>>hundred or a thousand copies it's hardly worth it.
> 
> 
> And yet, the questions continue to be asked.  
> 
> 
>>Things that are easy and straightforward in VMS can be difficult or 
>>impossible in Unix and vice versa!  That's why, in part, I run VMS, 
>>Solaris, and RedHat Linux on various machines in my home.
> 
> 
> That is true, and even for things that can be done easily there is
> a definite paradigm shift that has to be accounted for.
> 
> 
>>Somewhere, there's a table of equivalences; e.g.
>>TYPE				cat
>>DIRECTORY			ls
>>SET TIME			date
>>SHOW TIME			date
>>CREATE				touch
>>RUN AUTHORIZE			vi /etc/passwd
>>etc, etc.
> 
> 
> Yes. thre are a dozen or so of these lists.  None of which is really
> worth the time of locating them.  There is more to the interchange
> than the name of the command.  For example, your last one.  It is
> just plain wrong, unless your still running Ultrix-11. :-)
> 

It's not wrong for Solaris or Linux.  There are higher level utilities 
for adding/removing/modifying a user account but vi /etc/passwd will get 
the job done.  Creating a new users directory is left as an exercise for 
the student.

> And then we have the one above that.  touch does a little bit more
> than just create empty files.  Heck, you can do that with any editor.
> 
touch also modifies the date on an existing file.  But so what?

> 
>>Thus beginneth chapter one of the new version.  Next author please!
> 
>  
> Sigh, I guess we'll just have live with the eternal return of the
> question, "Unix for VMS guys".  Just like Haley's comet.
> 
> bill
> 

Unix for VMS Users doesn't really need all that much updating.  If 
there's any demand for it, I'm sure that Digital Press / 
Butterworth-Heinemann can supply copies.  AIRC it's pretty generic on 
the Unix side

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Date: 6 Dec 2007 01:42:17 GMT
From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Subject: Re: Unix for VMS guys
Message-ID: <5rp2bpF15f91aU3@mid.individual.net>

In article <4757343D.8090109@comcast.net>,
	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <4756D088.2070604@comcast.net>,
>> 	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>> 
>>>Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <4756B367.9000208@comcast.net>,
>>>>	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>JF Mezei wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>There used to be sites that provides much help in converting VMS 
>>>>>>commands into Unix commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does anyone have a current link for such ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, would there be a site describing control character equivalences ?
>>>>>>(for instance, in VMS, <ctrl-T> during a program gives you a status of 
>>>>>>that program, <ctrl-h> gets you to start of line <ctrl-o> supressed 
>>>>>>output until the next major breakpoint etc etc. Having equivalences for 
>>>>>>Unix would be useful.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know of one.
>>>>>
>>>>>There is, or was, a book called "Unix for VMS Users" by Philip Bourne. 
>>>>>See the VMS Bibliography on my web page for publication details:
>>>>>/http://home.comcast.net/~rgilbert88/VMS_Bibliography.html
>>>>>
>>>>>It offers some guidance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Better would be a good book on Unix in general and one on the shell you 
>>>>>wish to use.  The Bourne (not the same Bourne) shell is pretty much 
>>>>>mandatory for some things; e.g. working as root.
>>>>>
>>>>>There are also the Korn shell (ksh), the C shell (csh), the Bourne Again 
>>>>>shell (bash), tcsh, zsh. . . . and the roll of shame goes on!
>>>>>
>>>>>You might even try "man -k 'control characters'".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Funny how this question keeps popping up and yet when I suggested that
>>>>a more up to date book dealing with this was needed the pretty much
>>>>unanimous opinion was that one was not neither needed or desired.
>>>>Go figure!!
>>>>
>>>
>>>If someone wrote it, who would publish it?  
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I would probably try O'Reilly first.  I have bought a number
>> of books from them and will likely buy many more.
>> 
>> 
>>>                                            Who would buy it?
>> 
>> 
>> Well, for starters, possibly all the people who show up here asking
>> the question that re-animates this discussion every month or two.
>> And then, sadly for VMS, all the people who have never worked with
>> VMS who now find themselves involved in moving all the company's
>> legacy VMS apps(1) that have been happily running for years without
>> anyone paying attention to them over to that flashy new Linux box.
>> 
>> (1)  You know the apps I mean.  The ones that have been running the
>> business so long without a problem that the last guy who knew anything
>> about them retired 5 years ago.
>> 
>> 
>>>Writing a book represents a substantial effort; I'd guess six to twelve 
>>>man-months as a minimum.  Getting one published is difficult and 
>>>represents a substantial expense.  For a volume that might sell five 
>>>hundred or a thousand copies it's hardly worth it.
>> 
>> 
>> And yet, the questions continue to be asked.  
>> 
>> 
>>>Things that are easy and straightforward in VMS can be difficult or 
>>>impossible in Unix and vice versa!  That's why, in part, I run VMS, 
>>>Solaris, and RedHat Linux on various machines in my home.
>> 
>> 
>> That is true, and even for things that can be done easily there is
>> a definite paradigm shift that has to be accounted for.
>> 
>> 
>>>Somewhere, there's a table of equivalences; e.g.
>>>TYPE				cat
>>>DIRECTORY			ls
>>>SET TIME			date
>>>SHOW TIME			date
>>>CREATE				touch
>>>RUN AUTHORIZE			vi /etc/passwd
>>>etc, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> Yes. thre are a dozen or so of these lists.  None of which is really
>> worth the time of locating them.  There is more to the interchange
>> than the name of the command.  For example, your last one.  It is
>> just plain wrong, unless your still running Ultrix-11. :-)
>> 
> 
> It's not wrong for Solaris or Linux.  

It is wrong on both of them. It bypasses the lockingof the password
file to prevent other applications (like passwd) from writing to the
file while you are editing and it bypasses the sanity check that keeps
you from writing back a corrupt password file, which, if you were
editing the root entry at the time, can be pretty annoying yto fix.

>                                       There are higher level utilities 
> for adding/removing/modifying a user account but vi /etc/passwd will get 
> the job done.  

So will raw access to the disk, but that doesn't mean it is ever the
right way to do it.

>                Creating a new users directory is left as an exercise for 
> the student.
> 
>> And then we have the one above that.  touch does a little bit more
>> than just create empty files.  Heck, you can do that with any editor.
>> 
> touch also modifies the date on an existing file.  But so what?
> 
>> 
>>>Thus beginneth chapter one of the new version.  Next author please!
>> 
>>  
>> Sigh, I guess we'll just have live with the eternal return of the
>> question, "Unix for VMS guys".  Just like Haley's comet.
>> 
> 
> Unix for VMS Users doesn't really need all that much updating.  If 
> there's any demand for it, I'm sure that Digital Press / 
> Butterworth-Heinemann can supply copies.  AIRC it's pretty generic on 
> the Unix side

A lot has changed about both Unix and VMS since that book was written.
But then, if that is what passes for Unix knowledge here, it goes a long
ways towards explaining some of the pure drivel frequently posted here.

bill
 

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   

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Date: 6 Dec 2007 01:43:41 GMT
From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Subject: Re: Unix for VMS guys
Message-ID: <5rp2edF15f91aU4@mid.individual.net>

In article <111be$475730eb$cef8887a$5445@teksavvy.com>,
	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> 
>> RUN AUTHORIZE			vi /etc/passwd
> 
> The mac has the "netinfo" GUI application to manage the accounts and a 
> lot more.

And the example above would be akin to using EDT to change entries in
SYSUAF.

bill

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:28:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com>
Subject: Re: validate username/password against UAF using java ?
Message-ID: <f5ae1647-e998-460f-9513-50327adb65fb@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>

On Dec 4, 6:54 pm, Pierre <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 1:12 am, Bob Gezelter <gezel...@rlgsc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 5:35 pm, Pierre <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > is it possible to validate a username/password against the UAF using
> > > java ?
>
> > > TIA,
> > > Pierre.
>
> > Pierre,
>
> > Having worked with the API to call C/C++ routines from Java, it is not
> > a very large scale project to build the necessary function in C,
> > callable from Java as a sharable library to invoke the SYS$ACM and
> > other system services, as appropriate.
>
> > - Bob Gezelter,http://www.rlgsc.com
>
> well... I secretly hoped that digi-comp-HP peoples wrote java wrappers
> around useful operating system calls such as system services but it
> seems that I have to write my own JNI call
>
> ages ago, I did so on a Windows box. do you have any example in VMS
> parlance?
>
> TIA,
> Pierre.

Pierre,

I would have to dig out my notes from the client project (and sanitize
the examples). It was straightforward, however, there were some
interesting wrinkles if you wanted to be able to use the DEBUGGER when
the library was executed.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 19:16:21 GMT
From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <5robo5F156uouU2@mid.individual.net>

In article <35e90779-7cd8-4244-9639-724a591c3a14@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
	vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca writes:
> On Dec 5, 1:01 pm, AEF <spamsink2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 5, 1:34 pm, vancouvercan...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 5, 11:59 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > vancouvercan...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > > Hi, everybody
>>
>> > > > <Big desperation sigh>
>>
>> > > > In despair, I hope somebody has a Windows replacement for the
>> > > > wonderful VMS Search command.  The VMS search is so versatile and
>> > > > useful that I am searching for a similar command line tool for the
>> > > > Windows platform.
>>
>> > > > After a little bit of searching, I know of find and findstr.
>> > > > Specifically, I am looking for a command line tool that allows
>> > > > specification of search files using MODified, CREated, SINce and
>> > > > BEFore date modifiers.
>>
>> > > > On VMS, it is so easy to search for something that has happened in
>> > > > yesterday's log file... Why such a simple task is hard on Windows?
>>
>> > > > <\Big desperation sigh>
>>
>> > > > TIA
>> > > > Van
>>
>> > > > NB: Please, keep to the topic and refrain from bashing Windows. Your
>> > > > mom would not approve bashing a crippled OS. ;-)
>>
>> > > It's not hard if you use the Windows interface.  The "command line"
>> > > interface is the mortal remains of MSDOS and is nearly useless for most
>> > > purposes.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >  I am looking for a command line utility because I want to use it in a
>> > batch running at 4h00 AM everyday that will alert me when it finds
>> > some specific string in yesterday's log files. As you can guess, there
>> > is a big number of log files in the directory but I need to find if
>> > some event occurred yesterday.
>>
>> > TIA
>> > Van
>>
>> Have you tried this:
>>
>> Open DCL Lite version 2.21 (2001-088)
>> Copyright (C) Accelr8 Technology Corporation 1991-2001.  All rights
>> reserved.
>>
>> [Warning: The Lite version (which I have and use) is buggy. You may
>> need the pay-for version (which I don't have and never used).]
>>
>> Here's the SEARCH HELP:
>>
>> SEARCH
>>
>>     The SEARCH command searches the given file(s) for the given
>>     string(s).  The default file specification for omitted fields is
>> "*.*".
>>     Enclose the string(s) to match in quotation marks if they contain
>> any
>>     characters other than lowercase letters and digits.
>>
>>     Format:
>>
>>       SEARCH file-spec[,...] match-string[,...]
>>
>>   Additional information available:
>>
>>   Parameters Qualifiers
>>   /BEFORE    /BY_OWNER  /CONFIRM   /CREATED   /EXACT     /EXCLUDE   /
>> FORMAT
>>   /HEADING   /HIGHLIGHT /LOG       /MATCH     /MODIFIED  /NUMBERS
>>   /REMAINING /SINCE     /WINDOW
>>   Examples   Implementation_Differences
>>
>> SEARCH Subtopic?
>>
>> This is all from the free version, which I have on my PC at work.
>> Oddly, the HELP often assumes it's running on a Unix system. I myself
>> use it to take advantage of DIR/SINCE=-7-00 to see the last week's
>> worth of certain data files that are FTP'd to a Windows system every
>> workday.
>>
>>  Here is more info, also from the HELP:
>>
>> ACCELR8
>>
>>     Open DCL Lite was developed by Accelr8 Technology Corporation as a
>>     way to increase awareness of its commercial Open DCL product and
>> other
>>     migration software.  Open DCL supports a much larger set of DCL
>> commands
>>     and lexical functions, systemwide logical names, indexed files,
>> and more.
>>
>>     If you need to move applications and users from VMS to either Unix
>> or NT,
>>     Accelr8 can provide the tools and the expertise to get you there.
>>
>>     To contact Accelr8:
>>
>>     WWW:http://www.accelr8.com        E-mail: i...@accelr8.com
>>     Phone: 303-863-8088
>>     Mail: Accelr8 Technology Corporation
>>           303 E. 17th Ave., Suite 108
>>           Denver, CO 80203 USA
>>
>> Topic?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> DCL Lite would fit the bill. I even used it in another job.
> Unfortunately, the product is unsupported and accelr8 web site does
> not even mention dcl lite(Try to find it!). You also have to run the
> commands inside the shell, not at a DOS prompt. The resource usage is
> also not optimized. I would rather find a command line Search utility.
> 
> In fact, now that DCL Lite is mentionned, VMS community would gain if
> DCL Lite was OpenSourced.
> I am sure we could improve the tool for everybody's benefit. If
> somebody has access to DCL Lite owners, talk to them.

If they have a commercial DCL for Windows product it is probably not
in their best interests to see the free one improved.

bill

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 19:30:39 GMT
From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <5rocivF156uouU3@mid.individual.net>

In article <nfyFUxgA5IlW@eisner.encompasserve.org>,
	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:
> In article <146c9b6a-7323-4d58-be18-83ad0a5c1553@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca writes:
>> 
>> In despair, I hope somebody has a Windows replacement for the
>> wonderful VMS Search command.  The VMS search is so versatile and
>> useful that I am searching for a similar command line tool for the
>> Windows platform.
> 
>    There is hope.  Fortunately UNIX, as poor as you may find it,
>    is better than Windows.  And cygwin is a very usefull free 
>    UNIX emulation environment that runs on Windows.
>  
>    When you load cygwin, you may have to turn on some options to
>    get find, grep, and xargs.  Then just remember the UNIX mantra:
> 
>    find <files> | xargs grep <string>

Can be done without xargs, actually.

   find <files> -exec grep {} \; 

Other options as desired for both commands.

> 
>    Yeah, I know, I'd rather search, too, but the above beats the
>    pants of findstr.  And cygwin uses gnu grep, so you can do things
>    UNIX grep can't.

Not sure what you consider "UNIX grep" as all of them pretty much use
the GNU junk now.  Biggest problem with GNU is they have taken too
many of the Unix utilities and dragged them kicking and screaming out
of the true Unix Paradigm.

bill
 

-- 
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:11:38 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <_BD5j.30$k53.18@newsfe09.lga>

In article <35e90779-7cd8-4244-9639-724a591c3a14@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca writes:
>
>
>On Dec 5, 1:01 pm, AEF <spamsink2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 5, 1:34 pm, vancouvercan...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 5, 11:59 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > vancouvercan...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > > Hi, everybody
>>
>> > > > <Big desperation sigh>
>>
>> > > > In despair, I hope somebody has a Windows replacement for the
>> > > > wonderful VMS Search command.  The VMS search is so versatile and
>> > > > useful that I am searching for a similar command line tool for the
>> > > > Windows platform.
>>
>> > > > After a little bit of searching, I know of find and findstr.
>> > > > Specifically, I am looking for a command line tool that allows
>> > > > specification of search files using MODified, CREated, SINce and
>> > > > BEFore date modifiers.
>>
>> > > > On VMS, it is so easy to search for something that has happened in
>> > > > yesterday's log file... Why such a simple task is hard on Windows?
>>
>> > > > <\Big desperation sigh>
>>
>> > > > TIA
>> > > > Van
>>
>> > > > NB: Please, keep to the topic and refrain from bashing Windows. Your
>> > > > mom would not approve bashing a crippled OS. ;-)
>>
>> > > It's not hard if you use the Windows interface.  The "command line"
>> > > interface is the mortal remains of MSDOS and is nearly useless for most
>> > > purposes.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >  I am looking for a command line utility because I want to use it in a
>> > batch running at 4h00 AM everyday that will alert me when it finds
>> > some specific string in yesterday's log files. As you can guess, there
>> > is a big number of log files in the directory but I need to find if
>> > some event occurred yesterday.
>>
>> > TIA
>> > Van
>>
>> Have you tried this:
>>
>> Open DCL Lite version 2.21 (2001-088)
>> Copyright (C) Accelr8 Technology Corporation 1991-2001.  All rights
>> reserved.
>>
>> [Warning: The Lite version (which I have and use) is buggy. You may
>> need the pay-for version (which I don't have and never used).]
>>
>> Here's the SEARCH HELP:
>>
>> SEARCH
>>
>>     The SEARCH command searches the given file(s) for the given
>>     string(s).  The default file specification for omitted fields is
>> "*.*".
>>     Enclose the string(s) to match in quotation marks if they contain
>> any
>>     characters other than lowercase letters and digits.
>>
>>     Format:
>>
>>       SEARCH file-spec[,...] match-string[,...]
>>
>>   Additional information available:
>>
>>   Parameters Qualifiers
>>   /BEFORE    /BY_OWNER  /CONFIRM   /CREATED   /EXACT     /EXCLUDE   /
>> FORMAT
>>   /HEADING   /HIGHLIGHT /LOG       /MATCH     /MODIFIED  /NUMBERS
>>   /REMAINING /SINCE     /WINDOW
>>   Examples   Implementation_Differences
>>
>> SEARCH Subtopic?
>>
>> This is all from the free version, which I have on my PC at work.
>> Oddly, the HELP often assumes it's running on a Unix system. I myself
>> use it to take advantage of DIR/SINCE=-7-00 to see the last week's
>> worth of certain data files that are FTP'd to a Windows system every
>> workday.
>>
>>  Here is more info, also from the HELP:
>>
>> ACCELR8
>>
>>     Open DCL Lite was developed by Accelr8 Technology Corporation as a
>>     way to increase awareness of its commercial Open DCL product and
>> other
>>     migration software.  Open DCL supports a much larger set of DCL
>> commands
>>     and lexical functions, systemwide logical names, indexed files,
>> and more.
>>
>>     If you need to move applications and users from VMS to either Unix
>> or NT,
>>     Accelr8 can provide the tools and the expertise to get you there.
>>
>>     To contact Accelr8:
>>
>>     WWW:http://www.accelr8.com        E-mail: i...@accelr8.com
>>     Phone: 303-863-8088
>>     Mail: Accelr8 Technology Corporation
>>           303 E. 17th Ave., Suite 108
>>           Denver, CO 80203 USA
>>
>> Topic?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>DCL Lite would fit the bill. I even used it in another job.
>Unfortunately, the product is unsupported and accelr8 web site does
>not even mention dcl lite(Try to find it!). You also have to run the
>commands inside the shell, not at a DOS prompt. The resource usage is
>also not optimized. I would rather find a command line Search utility.
>
>In fact, now that DCL Lite is mentionned, VMS community would gain if
>DCL Lite was OpenSourced.
>I am sure we could improve the tool for everybody's benefit. If
>somebody has access to DCL Lite owners, talk to them.

There was a piece fo software called PC-DCL which, if you can find
the source, should be able to be compiled for Weendoze today.  Its
been the seed to a number of DCL wannabe products.

-- 
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:31:49 -0600
From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <47570AB5.3773850B@spam.comcast.net>

VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> [snip]
> There was a piece fo software called PC-DCL which, if you can find
> the source, should be able to be compiled for Weendoze today.  Its
> been the seed to a number of DCL wannabe products.

Was the source for that ever released?

Also, I found that it would conflict with DEPCA.DOS and/or the LAT
driver from Pathworks V4.1.

David J Dachtera
DJE Systems

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:34:23 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <jXD5j.32$k53.12@newsfe09.lga>

In article <35e90779-7cd8-4244-9639-724a591c3a14@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca writes:
>{...snip...}
>>     To contact Accelr8:
>>
>>     WWW:http://www.accelr8.com        E-mail: i...@accelr8.com
>>     Phone: 303-863-8088
>>     Mail: Accelr8 Technology Corporation
>>           303 E. 17th Ave., Suite 108
>>           Denver, CO 80203 USA
>>
>> Topic?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>DCL Lite would fit the bill. I even used it in another job.
>Unfortunately, the product is unsupported and accelr8 web site does
>not even mention dcl lite(Try to find it!). You also have to run the
>commands inside the shell, not at a DOS prompt. The resource usage is
>also not optimized. I would rather find a command line Search utility.

From: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:ZBa6_xTNzNAJ:www.accelr8.com/docs/AXK_1Q07_Update_02-07-07.pdf+accelr8+%2Bsector+7&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=18&gl=us&client=safari
...and several SEC filings, I found:

  History, Headquarters, and Employees

  Founded in August 1987, Accelr8 is headquartered in Denver, Colorado.
  The Company was originally a provider of software tools and consulting
  services for system modernization solutions for legacy systems. In early
  2001, Accelr8 acquired advanced materials and instrumentation platforms
  for ultra-sensitive bio-analytic assays from DDx, Inc. (a manufacturer 
  of estrus synchronization products) for $3 million ($500,000 in cash 
  plus 1.8 million shares of stock valued at $1.375, while the stock was
  $0.40 at the time). In 2003, the Company acquired additional intellectual
  property for rapid analytical processing. In2004, Accelr8 originated new
  analytical methods and intellectual property for the analysis of medical
  specimens based on sequential analysis of individual identifiable cells
  and clones (called Quantum Microbiology). The Companys BACcelr8r Rapid
  Analytical System employs elements from several of these assets.

Which to me speaks volumes about the usefulness of OpenVMS-like utilities 
in the Weendoze space.  If somebody was going to spend money on a script-
ing language for these CLI-lobotomized boxes, they should seek out to use
some scripting technlogy that is a bit more widely used.  Perhaps, PERL?
Or, PHP if doing this for web sites.  I'd wager that there are ratios of
greater than 1000 (or maybe 10K) to 1 people knowing some other scripting
lingo over DCL.  What's that you say?  You want DCL on Weendoze so you'll
be able to move your 100K lines of DCL procedures off of VMS and onto the
mohogony-lined meeting room martini-guzzling moron mandated migrations to
Weendoze?  Yeah, right.  These pseudo-DCL scripting shells pale to what
one can really do in DCL.  Give it up.  Only a fool would try to do this
and expect any rewarding results.

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Date: 5 Dec 2007 16:41:02 -0600
From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <xq9xdMFLYqZk@eisner.encompasserve.org>

In article <5rocivF156uouU3@mid.individual.net>, billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
> 
> Not sure what you consider "UNIX grep" as all of them pretty much use
> the GNU junk now.  Biggest problem with GNU is they have taken too
> many of the Unix utilities and dragged them kicking and screaming out
> of the true Unix Paradigm.

   None of the UNIX I have ship with gnu grep's ability to show
   unmatching lines surrounding the matching lines (equivalent of
   /WINDOW in VMS SEARCH).

   Gnu's not UNIX and UNIX ain't gnu.

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:07:22 -0500
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <47572F2A.6060304@comcast.net>

vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On Dec 5, 11:59 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>vancouvercan...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, everybody
>>
>>><Big desperation sigh>
>>
>>>In despair, I hope somebody has a Windows replacement for the
>>>wonderful VMS Search command.  The VMS search is so versatile and
>>>useful that I am searching for a similar command line tool for the
>>>Windows platform.
>>
>>>After a little bit of searching, I know of find and findstr.
>>>Specifically, I am looking for a command line tool that allows
>>>specification of search files using MODified, CREated, SINce and
>>>BEFore date modifiers.
>>
>>>On VMS, it is so easy to search for something that has happened in
>>>yesterday's log file... Why such a simple task is hard on Windows?
>>
>>><\Big desperation sigh>
>>
>>>TIA
>>>Van
>>
>>>NB: Please, keep to the topic and refrain from bashing Windows. Your
>>>mom would not approve bashing a crippled OS. ;-)
>>
>>It's not hard if you use the Windows interface.  The "command line"
>>interface is the mortal remains of MSDOS and is nearly useless for most
>>purposes.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
> 
> 
>  I am looking for a command line utility because I want to use it in a
> batch running at 4h00 AM everyday that will alert me when it finds
> some specific string in yesterday's log files. As you can guess, there
> is a big number of log files in the directory but I need to find if
> some event occurred yesterday.

ISTR that there is an implementation of grep available for Windows.  I 
don't recall if it comes with Windows or is an add-on.

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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:08:26 -0500
From: "John Vottero" <JVottero@mvpsi.com>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <hYH5j.3373$NY.401@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>

<vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca> wrote in message 
news:146c9b6a-7323-4d58-be18-83ad0a5c1553@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, everybody
>
> <Big desperation sigh>
>
> In despair, I hope somebody has a Windows replacement for the
> wonderful VMS Search command.  The VMS search is so versatile and
> useful that I am searching for a similar command line tool for the
> Windows platform.
>
> After a little bit of searching, I know of find and findstr.
> Specifically, I am looking for a command line tool that allows
> specification of search files using MODified, CREated, SINce and
> BEFore date modifiers.
>
> On VMS, it is so easy to search for something that has happened in
> yesterday's log file... Why such a simple task is hard on Windows?
>

PowerShell is the new Windows command line interface.  You can read more and 
download from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/PowerShell

To do this:

$ search *.log /created/before=today/since=yesterday "MyString" 
/out=c:\temp\list.tmp

in PowerShell, you would do:

PS C:\> dir *.log | where {$_.CreationTime.Date -eq 
[DateTime]::Today.AddDays(-1)} | select-string "MyString" > c:\temp\list.tmp

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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:13:54 GMT
From: VMS is Virus Free <vms@virusfree.org>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <dmiel3pn0j5p5a7ekkgs29vad1sntth6ls@4ax.com>

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:42:15 -0800 (PST), vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca
wrote:

>
>Basically, I would like to enter the following command in a batch
>file:
>
>$ search *.log /created/before=today/since=yesterday "MyString" /out=c:
>\temp\list.tmp
>
>Van

Van,

The best DCL environment I've ever found for Windows is a product
called XLNT from Advanced Systems Concepts. 

Main: http://www.advsyscon.com
XLNT: http://www.advsyscon.com/products/xlnt/

Cons:

It's rather expensive

Pros:

- Gives you a DCL environment on Windows
- Lots of lexicals, even some new ones
- DO WHILE, DO UNTIL constructs
- Many VMS commands files run w/o change
- Supported, new versions and updates do occur

There is also a SEARCH command included in its set of utilities:

SEARCH filename[,…] searchstring[,…]
/ACCESS /BEFORE[=time] /[NO] CONFIRM /CREATE /[NO]EXACT
/EXCLUDE=(filespec[,…])
/[NO]HEADING /[NO] HIGHLIGHT /[NO]LOG /MATCH=[and, nor, nand, or, xor]
/[NO]NUMBERS
/[NO]OUTPUT[=filespec] /SINCE[=time] /[NO]STATISTICS /[NO]WINDOW[=(n1,
n2)] /WRITE

I have recommended this to many customers who drug the VMS folks
kicking and screaming into the Windows world. This app alone made the
transition tolerable. In fact, when running inside this environment,
Windows is actually (gasp) tolerable because you can now get at and do
the things you like to do from the VMS side of things.

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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:22:31 GMT
From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <H1J5j.112$Es3.107@newsfe08.lga>

In article <dmiel3pn0j5p5a7ekkgs29vad1sntth6ls@4ax.com>, VMS is Virus Free <vms@virusfree.org> writes:
>
>
>On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:42:15 -0800 (PST), vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Basically, I would like to enter the following command in a batch
>>file:
>>
>>$ search *.log /created/before=today/since=yesterday "MyString" /out=c:
>>\temp\list.tmp

Try this and post back:

$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''F$message(%X34B4)'"

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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:26:46 +1100
From: Phaeton <phaeton@nsw.chariot.net.au>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <47575de3_4@news.chariot.net.au>

vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca wrote:
[...snip...]

> 
> DCL Lite would fit the bill. I even used it in another job.
> Unfortunately, the product is unsupported and accelr8 web site does
> not even mention dcl lite(Try to find it!). You also have to run the
> commands inside the shell, not at a DOS prompt. The resource usage is
> also not optimized. I would rather find a command line Search utility.
> 
> In fact, now that DCL Lite is mentionned, VMS community would gain if
> DCL Lite was OpenSourced.
> I am sure we could improve the tool for everybody's benefit. If
> somebody has access to DCL Lite owners, talk to them.
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion
> Van

	One more time :-) :

   I think you have to email them. I got it from them this way last year.

     Email : ussupport@transoft.com  ( USA, presumably )
     Email : uksupport@transoft.com   ( UK, I guess )

     Cheers,   Csaba

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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:31:40 -0500
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <47575F0C.1030201@comcast.net>

VAXman- wrote:
> In article <dmiel3pn0j5p5a7ekkgs29vad1sntth6ls@4ax.com>, VMS is Virus Free <vms@virusfree.org> writes:
> 
>>
>>On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:42:15 -0800 (PST), vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Basically, I would like to enter the following command in a batch
>>>file:
>>>
>>>$ search *.log /created/before=today/since=yesterday "MyString" /out=c:
>>>\temp\list.tmp
>>
> 
> Try this and post back:
> 
> $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''F$message(%X34B4)'"
> 

ALPHA5_$ $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''F$message(%X34B4)'"
%SYSTEM-F-NOMSG, Message number 000034B4
ALPHA5_$ say f$getsyi("version")
V7.2-1

What was your point Brian?

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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 12:27:30 +0800
From: Tim Sneddon <tesneddon@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <47576156$0$26094$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> Try this and post back:
>>
>> $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''F$message(%X34B4)'"
>>
> 
> ALPHA5_$ $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''F$message(%X34B4)'"
> %SYSTEM-F-NOMSG, Message number 000034B4
> ALPHA5_$ say f$getsyi("version")
> V7.2-1
> 
> What was your point Brian?
> 

On V8.3 it gives:

%SYSTEM-F-GAMEOVER, all your base are belong to us

Regards, Tim.

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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:14:02 -0500
From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Subject: Re: VMS like search utility for Windows
Message-ID: <4e040$4757932a$cef8887a$12996@TEKSAVVY.COM>

VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> Try this and post back:
> 
> $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''F$message(%X34B4)'"

$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "''F$message(%X34B4)'"
-bash: $: command not found


Besides, I never quite understood the wording of that message. 
Shouldn't "base" be plurial ? And doesn't the presence of "are" make the 
sentence sort of improperly structured ?

I take it this is the VMS security/intrusion system's last gasp it 
issues after hackers have taken control of all your nodes ?

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