INFO-VAX Sun, 30 Dec 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 715 Contents: Sigma Information Systems circuit board Re: VT100 standards Re: VT100 standards Re: VT100 standards Re: VT100 standards Re: VT100 standards Re: VT100 standards ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:54:36 GMT From: Tad Winters Subject: Sigma Information Systems circuit board Message-ID: I have a circuit board I believe was removed from a MicroVAX quite some time ago. I cannot identify it, but I do have some pictures if you'd be kind enough to look. Warning: There are 3 pictures and they are rather large. http://mysite.verizon.net/stafford.winters2/Sigma-Information-Systems- circuit-board.html (sorry for the wrapped url.) By the way, I have no use for this circuit board. If you're willing to pay shipping and packaging, I'd gladly send it. Tad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:10:57 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: VT100 standards Message-ID: <47769bea$0$15743$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > can't come up with a reference. I can recall doing things to DECTerm > titles with escape sequences from DCL. Unfortunately or, perhaps, not, > the code does not seem to have survived. The DECterm window titles is fairly easy: ]21;Window Title\ ]2L;Window Icon\ the first one is a twenty one, not two eye. I learned this right here on c.o.v a couple years ago. From an authoritative person, not from authoritative documentation There is also some information around on the mouse support for VT operations. It would be a real shame if all this went away as employees leave VMS before its documentation is made "open source". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:11:41 -0800 (PST) From: AEF Subject: Re: VT100 standards Message-ID: <185ce25e-c6dc-4efd-83f0-9f3f45964819@w38g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> On Dec 29, 2:10=A0pm, JF Mezei wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > can't come up with a reference. =A0I can recall doing things to DECTerm > > titles with escape sequences from DCL. =A0Unfortunately or, perhaps, not= , > > the code does not seem to have survived. > > The DECterm window titles is fairly easy: > > ]21;Window Title\ > ]2L;Window Icon\ > > the first one is a twenty one, not two eye. > > I learned this right here on c.o.v a couple years ago. From an > authoritative person, not from authoritative documentation > > There is also some information around on the mouse support for VT > operations. =A0It would be a real shame if all this went away as employees= > leave VMS before its documentation is made "open source". Well, if Microsoft can be forced to share its code, why not HP for this? AEF ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:25:19 GMT From: Bob Harris Subject: Re: VT100 standards Message-ID: In article <01c1c559$0$11730$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei wrote: > The "Re: Setting Reflection 2 window titles from VMS" thead has gotten > me to think. > > Has Digital ever officially released/published documentation on all the > escape sequences that are beyond the core VT220 ones ? (especially those > labeled "DEC private sequences) ? > > Over the years, I have seen many individual requests for the private > escape sequences. And while the VT320 book contained many of them, > don't recall seeing a DECterm programming manual with all the special > escape sequences. And I recall the author of Kermit having to privately > obtain many sequences under the table to get his emulator to work well. > > If DEC was unwilling to officially publish the complete set of escape > sequences, can you fault emulator makers for their non-compliance ? > > > However, we know that the VT terminal manuals until at least the VT400 > series contained a good listing of the escape sequences, but it didn't > document all of them. > > > If an emulator doesn't get those right then yeah, you can fault them. > But I do not believe that the "set the window title" sequence has ever > officially been documented. Try the following man page: This is from the Tru64 UNIX "man 5 dtterm" man page. While not strictly vt100, it does contain most of the escape sequences Digital created for its terminal lines. Bob Harris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:46:47 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: VT100 standards Message-ID: In article , Bob Harris writes: > > >In article <01c1c559$0$11730$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, > JF Mezei wrote: > >> The "Re: Setting Reflection 2 window titles from VMS" thead has gotten >> me to think. >> >> Has Digital ever officially released/published documentation on all the >> escape sequences that are beyond the core VT220 ones ? (especially those >> labeled "DEC private sequences) ? >> >> Over the years, I have seen many individual requests for the private >> escape sequences. And while the VT320 book contained many of them, >> don't recall seeing a DECterm programming manual with all the special >> escape sequences. And I recall the author of Kermit having to privately >> obtain many sequences under the table to get his emulator to work well. >> >> If DEC was unwilling to officially publish the complete set of escape >> sequences, can you fault emulator makers for their non-compliance ? >> >> >> However, we know that the VT terminal manuals until at least the VT400 >> series contained a good listing of the escape sequences, but it didn't >> document all of them. >> >> >> If an emulator doesn't get those right then yeah, you can fault them. >> But I do not believe that the "set the window title" sequence has ever >> officially been documented. > >Try the following man page: > >N/MAN5/0201____.HTM> > >This is from the Tru64 UNIX "man 5 dtterm" man page. While not >strictly vt100, it does contain most of the escape sequences >Digital created for its terminal lines. They're documented in my many Programmer's Guide for VT*** which came with the terminals. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: 29 Dec 2007 20:10:24 -0600 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: VT100 standards Message-ID: In article <47769743.7080001@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" writes: > Larry Kilgallen wrote: >> In article <47768650.5040807@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" writes: >> >> >>>Hoff's web page http://64.223.189.234/node/92 has some words of wisdom >>>on the subject. >>> >>>Note to Hoff: Internet Exploder renders the title rather strangely: >>>there's some barely visible lettering between the lines! >> >> >> I note that http://validator.w3.org shows that page as having two errors. >> It might be best to clean those up before reporting a browser problem to >> Microsoft. > > Well, I hadn't really considered reporting a browser problem to > Microsoft!! So why report it to us ? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:16:36 -0500 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: VT100 standards Message-ID: <4776FF84.9010703@comcast.net> Larry Kilgallen wrote: > In article <47769743.7080001@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" writes: > >>Larry Kilgallen wrote: >> >>>In article <47768650.5040807@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" writes: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hoff's web page http://64.223.189.234/node/92 has some words of wisdom >>>>on the subject. >>>> >>>>Note to Hoff: Internet Exploder renders the title rather strangely: >>>>there's some barely visible lettering between the lines! >>> >>> >>>I note that http://validator.w3.org shows that page as having two errors. >>>It might be best to clean those up before reporting a browser problem to >>>Microsoft. >> >>Well, I hadn't really considered reporting a browser problem to >>Microsoft!! > > > So why report it to us ? Why do you insist on calling it a browser problem? There are html errors on that page!!! ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.715 ************************