INFO-VAX Wed, 23 Jan 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 45 Contents: Re: "file locked by another user" mystery Announcing Distributed NetBeans Version 5.5 FT3 for OpenVMS AlphaServer Systems Re: F$UNIQUE library function Just so you know marine computer gearheads Re: our toll free number is down Positioning xterm windows from DCL (was Re: CREATE/TERMINAL /NOPROCESS vs /NOLO Re: This NG seems unusually quiet... Re: This NG seems unusually quiet... Ubiquitous Internet Service VAX HW & SW - Free to good home(s) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:44:23 -0800 From: Fred Bach Subject: Re: "file locked by another user" mystery Message-ID: Which is why in my DCL coding I always have a line containing $CLOSE/NOLOG before every DCL OPEN statement. Harmless if the file is NOT open already, but a lifesaver if it was open. Also, in all programs that use the OPEN statement, there should be a place or places to jump to on an error or severe_error or on CONTROL_Y where any open files are closed with the $CLOSE/NOLOG command. Yes, I even use the "/NOLOG" qualifier in the EXIT routine since the Control_Y may have happened very early in the program. If you didn't specify the "/NOLOG" qualifier, in the EXIT routine, then if the CONTROL-Y happened before the OPEN statement, no file would be open at the exit and therefore the close statement in the EXIT routine and so there would be an routine, no error message is generated. Without the "/NOLOG qualifier in the exit routine, there would be an error message, which you don't want. Note that the appropriate error conditions should be set to point to those locations. Like this: . . . . $ON ERROR THEN GO TO EXIT $ON SEVERE_ERROR THEN GOTO EXIT $ON CONTROL_Y THEN GO TO EXIT $ON WARNING THEN CONTINUE $CLOSE/NOLOG INFILE $OPEN INFILE dsk1:[users.fred]test.dat $READ INFILE line . . . $EXIT: $ CLOSE/NOLOG INFILE $ CLOSE/NOLOG OUTFILE $ EXIT Of course, in real programs I also put qualifiers on the OPEN and READ statements themselves, like for places to go if there is an OPEN or READ error, and where to go when the READ statement reaches end-of-file in test.dat .. fred bach .. AEF wrote: [snip] > > Could it be as simple as this? > > $ OPEN/WRITE BLAH BLOW.TXT > $ DEAS BLAH > $ SHOW DEV/FILES/OUT=A.TMP > $ SEAR A.TMP BLOW > FELDMAN 00009A4A [DECUSERVE_USER.FELDMAN]BLOW.TXT;1 > $ OPEN/WRITE/READ BLAH BLOW.TXT > %DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening EISNER$DRA3: > [DECUSERVE_USER.FELDMAN]BLOW.TXT; as in > put > -RMS-E-FLK, file currently locked by another user > $ > > But this does mean some process has it open that you are unaware of. > > AEF ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Subject: Announcing Distributed NetBeans Version 5.5 FT3 for OpenVMS AlphaServer Systems Message-ID: <602dae35-8fd4-4c78-82ca-c82735dc2a1a@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Dear Newsgroup, Just in case you are not on my email or visit openvms.org in the last 24 hrs. Here is the latest NetBeans for you. If you have not tried this you really should try it out. We have offered this hands on class at the boot camp and folks really like it. sue -----Original Message----- From: NetBeans for OpenVMS Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Announcing Distributed NetBeans Version 5.5 FT3 for OpenVMS AlphaServer Systems and Integrity Servers OpenVMS Engineering is pleased to announce the availability of Distributed NetBeans Version 5.5 FT3 for OpenVMS AlphaServer systems and Integrity servers. Distributed NetBeans allows you to run the NetBeans integrated development environment (IDE) on your desktop system to develop applications on a remote HP OpenVMS system. This latest field test version supports NetBeans 5.5.1. New Features in Distributed NetBeans Version 5.5 FT3 include: - Support for debugging non-Java applications (C/C++, Fortran, Pascal, COBOL, and Basic) running on the OpenVMS machine remotely from inside the NetBeans IDE. - Enhanced password security. - SMB file share support for use with remote projects. The supported SMB products on the OpenVMS machine are Advanced Server and HP OpenVMS Common Internet File System (CIFS) Version 1.0, based on Samba V3.0.24. - Enhanced Remote Execute support, including foreign command support for .EXE files and automatic prompting for parameters for DCL command procedures and .EXE files. - Expanded 3GL file properties support. 3GL settings are now supported on a per file, per project, and global basis. The NetBeans IDE, Distributed NetBeans client, and the IDE Server are provided free of charge. Support is provided with your OpenVMS operating system support contract and by the Distributed NetBeans development team. For more information or to download the Distributed NetBeans Version 5.5 FT3 kit, please visit http://www.hp.com/products/openvms/distributednetbeans/ Best Regards, The Distributed NetBeans for OpenVMS Engineering Team ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:52:46 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: F$UNIQUE library function Message-ID: <47968fd4$0$90265$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER wrote: > In article <47951d87$0$90275$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >> Desktop requirements and server requirements are too different. > > But people ignore this (or why did windows reach the datacenters - coming > from the gameconsoles at home via the desktops in office - then?) > and buy them (to reduce to only one desktop _and_ server platform)... MS has serious problem with Linux in the server market. And if you look at the difference between Windows in desktop and server versions, then I think it is significantly increasing (well - it was about zero in NT 4.0, so difficult not to). And it is definitely not an approach I would recommend. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:03:25 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Subject: Just so you know Message-ID: <8c3a8add-57e9-4d03-b502-bbeeeded1ffd@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Dear Newsgroup, I figure that you all know this, but just in case. If there is something you need and I can help. If I do not know the answer, I usually know the correct contact. Please send me mail on my hp email. I am happy to help. The email address for most hp folks is first name . last name @ hp.com Warm Regards, Sue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: bob.birch@gmail.com Subject: marine computer gearheads Message-ID: <24b0cf1d-d88d-437b-8583-a4e9d9437053@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> I'm attending an excellent 2 day marine diesel engine workshop on Yanmar engines (Trawlerfest.com) and have a few questions for any marine computer gearheads: 1. One of the handouts show a network of service computers with the capability of monitoring engine data in the field, repair shop and production floor. All the data is fed back to a server that looks like a older Vax 780+. Yanmar builds the engines in Adairsville, Georgia, Netherlands and Osaka. Anyone know if it's a Vax server. 2. The newer 6 cyl Yanmars have a Electronic Control System (ECS), controlling/monitoring engine with a CAN Bus. The bus looks like NMEA 2000 or RS422 or Ethernet. Not sure. Anyone know what it is? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:10:47 -0800 From: DeanW Subject: Re: our toll free number is down Message-ID: <3f119ada0801221710h31281de0k36f19132e9d5382@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 16, 2008 3:07 PM, David Turner wrote: > As we do a lot of business with people on this newsgroup we thought it > prudent to note that ATT, in their infinite wisdom have screwed up our > toll free number. They "don't know" (!!!) when they will have it fixed. > Our regular number (912 786 8502) is working as well as email and web I've been trying to email you for a couple weeks now... -- Dean Woodward =o&o dean.woodward@gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:59:48 -0800 From: Fred Bach Subject: Positioning xterm windows from DCL (was Re: CREATE/TERMINAL /NOPROCESS vs /NOLO Message-ID: <47969184.3010708@triumf.ca> Been there, seen that. Here's an excerpt from letter I wrote to my colleagues in 2006: This may be a revelation to more than just myself, so I'm sending it around to anybody who might create DECTERM windows on an XTERM. It appeared that my DCL programs for some time now had no control over where I could place the DECTERMS created with CREATE/TERMINAL . No matter where I specified the X_POSITION and Y_POSITION to be, each new window would stack a little down and to the right of the last window until one edge of a window reached some limit or boundary, and then subsequent windows created with CREATE/TERMINAL would start in a totally different place. The window manager was trying to make sure that the whole window fitted onto the screen. All this happened with the identical CREATE/TERMINAL command where the x and Y position, and the rows and columns were specified all exactly the same. So I hunted up DECWINDOWS on GOOGLE, and found a DecWindows/Motif manual: http://www.tru64unix.compaq.com/docs/base_doc/DOCUMENTATION/V40F_HTML/AQ917BTE/TITLE.HTM and it said this (for UNIX machines but what the heck...): ! This determines default placement of window when there is ! no specification by the user ! Set to true to have Mwm stagger the positions of a window ! from the top left corner Mwm*clientAutoPlace: False So I added the above to my DECW$MWM.DAT file (comments and all) and now CREATE/TERMINAL places the window correctly on my screen. It's a shame there isn't some online DCL HELP command to list and *explain* all these DecWindows 'resource' items. Cheers, .. Fred .. VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article , "P. Sture" writes: >> >> In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG >> wrote: >> >>> While we're on this topic, I have a procedure that I execute to create a >>> terminal that I use for debugging certain apps: >>> >>> $ CREATE/TERMINAL=DECTERM - >>> /NOPROCESS - >>> /DEFINE_LOGICAL=(TABLE=LNM$SYSTEM,DBG$INPUT,DBG$OUTPUT) - >>> /WINDOW_ATTRIBUTES=(TITLE="*** Debugger ***",ICON_NAME="DBG",- >>> BACKGROUND=TAN,X_POSITION={x},Y_POSITION={y}) >>> >>> I would like to have the terminal created in the same place on my screen >>> everytime I invoke this procedure but no matter what values I've used for >>> {x} and {y}, the terminal is placed at some random location. Can anybody >>> get the X_POSITION and Y_POSITION window attributes to work? >>> >> I've just tried to reproduce this, on Alpha 8.3 and using CDE (New >> Desktop), and successive terminal windows come up exactly on top of each >> other. >> >> Here's my version: >> >> $ CREATE/TERMINAL=DECTERM - >> /NOPROCESS - >> /DEFINE_LOGICAL=(TABLE=LNM$SYSTEM,DBG$INPUT,DBG$OUTPUT) - >> /WINDOW_ATTRIBUTES=(TITLE="*** Debugger ***",ICON_NAME="DBG",- >> BACKGROUND=TAN,X_POSITION=50,Y_POSITION=100) > > Still does the same here even using your values. Of course, this is on a > box running V7.3-2. > > > >> One thing I do notice is that after a window is created, the title reads >> "DECterm (c) Copyright..." until I click on it, when "*** DEbugger ***" >> is displayed. > > After a brief "copyright" display period, the "*** Debugger ***" title > should show in the title bar. Perhaps they've finally fixed the position > issue and introduced another. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:23:11 -0800 (PST) From: AEF Subject: Re: This NG seems unusually quiet... Message-ID: <81b2dddc-2f57-478c-83c5-56149580bcb6@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com> On Jan 19, 9:15 am, Neil Rieck wrote: > Compared to this time last year, this NG seems unusually quiet. Is > something going on the the OpenVMS world that I don't know about? Have > all the OpenVMS developers already jumped to other platforms? Many > previous contributors seem missing in action. > > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, > Ontario, Canada.http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ Web page http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/about lists activity as "high" with 81 recent authors. There are other interesting stats on the page. For example, CJL is still the champion for sheer volume of posts (well, sort of). AEF ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:35:09 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: This NG seems unusually quiet... Message-ID: <1Zvlj.15$7K2.11@newsfe11.lga> In article <81b2dddc-2f57-478c-83c5-56149580bcb6@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, AEF writes: > > >On Jan 19, 9:15 am, Neil Rieck wrote: >> Compared to this time last year, this NG seems unusually quiet. Is >> something going on the the OpenVMS world that I don't know about? Have >> all the OpenVMS developers already jumped to other platforms? Many >> previous contributors seem missing in action. >> >> Neil Rieck >> Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, >> Ontario, Canada.http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ > >Web page > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/about > >lists activity as "high" with 81 recent authors. There are other >interesting stats on the page. For example, CJL is still the champion >for sheer volume of posts (well, sort of). Interesting. I think I'd be higher on the All Time list but I posted using a number of different email addys in the past. Is there a way to search by author? I put in VAXman in the general group search and it found in excess of 9000 posts. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:26:57 -0800 (PST) From: Google Software Subject: Ubiquitous Internet Service Message-ID: <3039ae3a-31ce-4dec-900a-284bdda1ba27@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Few people realize that Google also gives you hundreds of cool ways to organize and play with information. Google has added many new features and services to its expanding universe: Google Earth, Google Talk, Google Maps, Book Search, Video Search, Music Search, Google Base, Google Reader, and Google Desktop among them.you will find that the original Google has more interesting than to search functions, waiting for you to use . Get into the world of Google and bend it to your will! Visit http://www.google-software.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:08:02 +1100 From: Phaeton Subject: VAX HW & SW - Free to good home(s) Message-ID: <4796af93_2@news.chariot.net.au> The following old DEC items are FREE to a good home or homes. Location : Sydney, Australia + 100 km ( Blue Mountains ) * For those overseas who are interested in any of the items, I am prepared to ship them, if postage and handling is paid. I am on Paypal. ( First come first served. ) !! Most of the cables/items I haven't tried or used. There are some rare cables, etc. below which might be of interest for a collector of DEC memorabilia or an active hobbyist... 1 x MicroVAX 3100-40 Working, OpenVMS installed. 2 x VT420 text terminals 4 x keyboards : 1 x LK401-AA 3 x LK250-AA ( VT320 style, wide ) w. big DIN plugs ( 1 still in box, new ! ) 3 x DECconnect cable BC16E-10 2 x Internal SCSI cable for MicroVAX P/N: 17-02439-01 2 x BN37A Rev: B02 cable ( SCSI Fast 20 ) 1 x H8571-D Rev A MMJ-RS232 adapter 1 x H8571-A Rev B MMJ-RS232 adapter 1 x H8575-D B01 MMJ-RS232 adapter 1 x Cable P/N: 17-04074-01 RJ12 - 9 pin 2 x Cable P/N: 17-60137-01 SCSI male-male 3 x BC16M-06 Cable Thinwire, coax-coax 1 x BC56H-03 B01 External SCSI cable for 3100 1 x Digital mouse PC7XS-AA w. mini DIN plug 1 x BC09D-06 50pin small HONDA to SCSI cable !! 1 x Digital "Magnetic Media" 99-09150-02 ( 5 *original* DEC 3.5" floppies, in a white paper box ) !!! 1 x Box of *original* 5.25" DEC floppies ! 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CR-508-B ( Panasonic, 24X ? ) ( Good for VMS, sector size is selectable via jumper. ) 1 x MiLAN Micro-MAU MIL-05T Ethernet transceiver. 1 x 12-29635-01 Rev A SCSI terminator 68pol for VS3100. 1 x 12-33626-01 Rev A SCSI terminator 50pol Micromale D-Sub 1 x 50 Ohm coax terminator ( Thinwire ) 1 x T-plug, Thinwire coax 1 x 12-22196-01 Network loopback connector 1 x Floppy drive 3.5" PC compatible 5 x PC network cards, old ones... ---------------------- 1 x OpenVMS V7.1 printed Documentation ( over 60 books ! ) 1 x VAX-11 MACRO Language Manual ( May 1982 ) VMS vers. 3.0 1 x VAX-11 MACRO User's Guide ( May 1982 ) VMS vers. 3.0 1 x VAX-11 FORTRAN Language Reference Manual ( April 1982 ) ( The above 3 books might be stencil copies, but excellent cond. ) 1 x Installing and Using the VT320 terminal EK-VT320-UU-001 ( booklet, with all the escape codes, etc. Very useful. ) 1 x OpenVMS VAX OLD LIB 1995 December 4 CDs 1 x OpenVMS VAX OLD Doc LIB Q4CY97 UPD 2 CDs ( QA-VYR8A-W8AZ01 ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are for sale : $25 Windows XP Professional ( book, 496 pages, A4 size, see : http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Professional-Little-Black-Book/dp/1588802531 ) $25 Logitech Extreme 3D PRO joystick w. inst. CD $5 USB snake light ( cool for laptops ) Thanks. Cheers, Csaba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: Esplanade (v.), to attempt an explanation while drunk. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.045 ************************