INFO-VAX Sun, 09 Mar 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 137 Contents: 2nd CFP: DATICS 2008 - Design, Analysis and Tools for Integrated Circuits and Sy Re: Burn a CD from XP that VMS will mount/read? New XHR$ RTL for XMLHttpRequest/VMS (Was: Re: Walk a mile in their thongs) Re: OT: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: OT: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: OT: Universal healthcare in England failing - boy dies ! Re: OT: Universal healthcare in England failing - boy dies ! Re: OT: Universal healthcare in England failing - boy dies ! Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Re: Shadow set problem finally solved Re: VMS advertising ! Re: VMS advertising ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:59:47 -0800 (PST) From: DATICS2008 Subject: 2nd CFP: DATICS 2008 - Design, Analysis and Tools for Integrated Circuits and Sy Message-ID: <2be1c538-efd9-408b-9ed9-a65a915ca321@47g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Apologies for any multiple copies received. We would appreciate it if you could distribute the following call for papers to any relevant mailing lists you know of. 2nd CALL FOR PAPERS =============================================================================== Special session: Design, Analysis and Tools for Integrated Circuits and Systems DATICS 2008 July 22-24, 2008 (Crete Island, Greece) http://digilander.libero.it/systemcfl/datics =============================================================================== Aims and Scope -------------- The main target of the Special Session: DATICS 2008 of the WSEAS CSCC multi-conference (http://www.wseas.org/conferences/2008/greece/icc/) is to bring together software/hardware engineering researchers, computer scientists, practitioners and people from industry to exchange theories, ideas, techniques and experiences related to all areas of design, analysis and tools for integrated circuits (e.g. digital, analog and mixed-signal circuits) and systems (e.g. real-time, hybrid and embedded systems). The special session also focuses on the field of formal methods and low power design methodologies for integrated circuits. Topics ------ Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: * digital, analog, mixed-signal designs and test * RF design and test * design-for-testability and built-in self test methodologies * reconfigurable system design * high-level synthesis * EDA tools for design, testing and verification * low power design methodologies * network and system on-a-chip * application-specific SoCs * specification languages: SystemC, SystemVerilog and UML * all areas of modelling, simulation and verification * formal methods and formalisms (e.g. process algebras, petri-nets, automaton theory and BDDs) * real-time, hybrid and embedded systems * software engineering (including real-time Java, real-time UML and performance metrics) Industrial Collaborators ------------------------ DATICS 2008 is partnered with: * CEOL: Centre for Efficiency-Oriented Languages "Towards improved software timing", University College Cork, Ireland ( http://www.ceol.ucc.ie) * International Software and Productivity Engineering Institute, USA (http://www.intspei.com ) * Intelligent Support Ltd., United Kingdom (http://www.isupport- ltd.co.uk) * Minteos, Italy (http://www.minteos.com) * M.O.S.T., Italy (http://www.most.it) * Electronic Center, Italy (http://www.el-center.com) DATICS 2008 is sponsored by: 1. LS Industrial Systems, South Korea (http://eng.lsis.biz) 2. Solari, Hong Kong (http://www.solari-hk.com) Technical Program Committee --------------------------- * Prof. Vladimir Hahanov, Kharkov National University of Radio Electronics, Ukraine * Prof. Paolo Prinetto, Politecnico di Torino, Italy * Prof. Alberto Macii, Politecnico di Torino, Italy * Prof. Joongho Choi, University of Seoul, South Korea * Prof. Wei Li, Fudan University, China * Prof. Michel Schellekens, University College Cork, Ireland * Prof. Franco Fummi, University of Verona, Italy * Prof. Jun-Dong Cho, Sung Kyun Kwan University, South Korea * Prof. AHM Zahirul Alam, International Islamic University Malaysia, Malaysia * Prof. Gregory Provan, University College Cork, Ireland * Dr. Emanuel Popovici, University College Cork, Ireland * Dr. Jong-Kug Seon, Telemetrics Lab., LG Industrial Systems Co. Ltd., South Korea * Dr. Umberto Rossi, STMicroelectronics, Italy * Dr. Graziano Pravadelli, University of Verona, Italy * Dr. Vladimir Pavlov, International Software and Productivity Engineering Institute, USA * Dr. Jinfeng Huang, Philips & LiteOn Digital Solutions Netherlands, Advanced Research Centre, The Netherlands * Dr. Thierry Vallee, Georgia Southern University, Statesboro, Georgia, USA * Dr. Menouer Boubekeur, University College Cork, Ireland * Dr. Ana Sokolova, University of Salzburg, Austria * Dr. Sergio Almerares, STMicroelectronics, Italy * Ajay Patel (Director), Intelligent Support Ltd, United Kingdom * Monica Donno (Director), Minteos, Italy * Alessandro Carlo (Manager), Research and Development Centre of FIAT, Italy * Yui Fai Lam (Manager), Microsystems Packaging Institute, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, Hong Kong Important Dates --------------- March 31, 2008: Deadline for submission of completed papers May 1, 2008: Notification of acceptance/rejection to authors Please visit our web-site for further information on the hosting conference of DATICS, submission guidelines, proceedings and publications and international technical reviewers. Best regards, General Chair of DATICS: Dr. K.L. Man (University College Cork, Ireland) and Organising Committee Chair: Miss Maria O'Keeffe (University College Cork, Ireland) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:32:34 -0600 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Burn a CD from XP that VMS will mount/read? Message-ID: <47D38482.25DE8E7A@spam.comcast.net> bakermo@swbell.net wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to apply patches to a newly installed I64 VMS server in a > black environment. This server has no network connections (yet) and > even when it does it will not have access to the white world or FTP. > > I need to install a patch on this server. I have downloaded the patch > from HP but how can I get the patch to the VMS server? > > Is there a way to burn a CD on XP PRO that VMS 8.3 will mount/read? > > HP support told me to burn an image. I have done this with Nero with > no luck. > > This is a one of a time requirement. > > Is it possible to burn a CD from XP? What software do you recommend > and how is it done (if possible)? > > Thanks in advance, > > John If you already have the disk image, software can be added to XP which uses XP's own CD burning, and also adds a right-click option to burn an image to CD in Windows Explorer for .ISO files. "Google" for "alex feinman isorecorder". There is no known software (AFAIK) for actually creating an ODS disk image on any OS other than VMS. MKISOFS may be available for Windows; however, this will be only marginally useful since you'll have to MOUNT it (on VMS) one way for binary (non-ASCII) files, and another for ASCII files. Easy CD Creator and others can produce ISO-9660 images, also. See also: http://www.djesys.com/vms/cdrom.html David J Dachtera (formerly dba) DJE Systems ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:02:04 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: New XHR$ RTL for XMLHttpRequest/VMS (Was: Re: Walk a mile in their thongs) Message-ID: Hi, (Sorry for the late reply, but I have spent much time recently flailing around madly getting a Java client (Glassfish/JAX-WS in this case) to work with someone's SOAP web-services, and it jogged my memory about this thread, and SOA in general.) "Jan-Erik Söderholm" wrote: > As long as it's not messed-up like the WSIT kit... :-) I started skimming through "SOA Using Web Services - Mark D. Hansen" the other night and had to smile at headings such as "Am I Stupid, or is Java Web Services Really Hard?" and I remembered your comments here about wanting to avoid Java in particular (and later Perl) and your preferring a "standard C compiler". (Believe me, seeing WSIMPORT generating a Java sub-class for *every* level of XML tag, and Eclipse dying on its feet everytime you hit a keystroke, could only serve to harden your resolve!) Then Chapter 3 "Basic SOA Using REST" got me wondering why VMS 3GLs have never had the benefit of run-time library that provided XMLHttpRequest-type functionality. Does C or C++ provide such a mechanism, natively or otherwise? I believe Java to have several options, but the Java requirement would sort of defeat the purpose here. Along the lines of: - http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/ or http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms535874(VS.85).aspx would you be interested in a RESTful XHR$ RTL that had an entry-point for every XMLHttpRequest.method() and an itemlist3-input and itemlist2-output for each of the attributes? Is there some sort of XML(Xerces?) parser that can return named-pairs, getters/setters, Btree. As for "How does this help create a SOAP client?", I believe that a the SOAP header(s) can be supplied as the parameter to the XHR.send(header) method. Something like: - http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.xml/msg/ec318224cf702a67 Anyone out there doing this? Want to do this? Ever had the urge to call Yahoo-Weather from your VMS/COBOL program? Cheers Richard Maher "Jan-Erik Söderholm" wrote in message news:cpt5j.1308$R_4.949@newsb.telia.net... > Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > > >> And if not, is there any easier tool the gSOAP > >> to use to run against those API's ? > > > > I've had a fair bit of luck using the SOAP::Lite > > stuff in Perl to do that. > > The thing I like with gSOAP is that it doesn't need > any other fancy tool then a standard C compiler. > No ODS-5, no Java (or perl) and not the "latest VMS". > > > I guess I should take a look at that also then. > > I'd be glad to describe my project if you'd like > a jump-start. Note, I'm only using gSOAP as > a client in this project. Mail me privatly. I guess > my mail adress is available from the post... > > > I too would be quite happy to see HP offer an "official" > > SOAP toolkit for VMS. > > As long as it's not messed-up like the WSIT kit... :-) > > Jan-Erik. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:49:20 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: OT: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: <47d325fd$0$90275$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > I'm struggling with an issue with a CMS. What documentation does exist is > poor and it looks like a Micro$oft Weendoze for Morons book with nothing in > it but screenshots of the pages. > > What? No concept of there being a problem? No troubleshooting guide? No > actual documentation explaining the various content sections? Nope. I'm > told, "Look at the source if you have a problem, the comments should guide > you." What comment? CMS'es can be pretty bad. If you look at the list of CMS'es at http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ you will see that there exist an obscene number of them. The majority being open source written in PHP. Some of them are OK. But some of them are bad - some of them are very bad. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:56:22 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: OT: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: <47d327a3$0$90276$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Dan Allen wrote: > Ahhh - open source! Ask me about how I like my current open source software > project. Google for "documentation" on basic API's which exists only in mailing > list exchanges and Wiki posts - AAAAARGHHHH! An amalgam of half a dozen Version > 1.0.xxx open source packages all with nearly daily code updates. Ohh - I forgot > - I can always read the source code..... SourceForge has 171554 open source projects. FreshMeat has 44233 projects. It should be obvious that not all of those are high quality. It should be obvious that a big majority of those will be rather crappy. But there are good quality open source projects out there. Even projects with good documentation. BTW, daily code updates is not the worst - the worst is those with no updates for 3 years. > But of course when I'm done the customer won't have to pay them nasty license > and support fees. Some open source users actually buy support contracts. Some of those support contracts can be rather expensive. 24x7 support cost. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:08:31 -0800 (PST) From: AEF Subject: Re: OT: Universal healthcare in England failing - boy dies ! Message-ID: On Mar 8, 8:36 am, ultra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mar 7, 1:15 pm, AEF wrote: > > > > > On Mar 7, 11:29 am, ultra...@gmail.com wrote: > [...] > > > > wrong ... they were NOT Christians ... > > > > true Christians know that only God has the right to > > > kill, and that means suicide too, and if they do it is > > > murder ... and you can add abortion to that too ... > > > > just because someone says there are a Christian > > > does not mean they are ... > > > Some scientists favor creationism over evolution. These are not true > > scientists. > > > Just because someone says he is a scientist doesn't make it so. > > > Bob, have you heard of the Crusades? At least one pope, Pope Alexander > > II -- well, here's the quote from the Wikipedia Crusades article: > > > "In 1063, Pope Alexander II [gave] his blessing to Iberian Christians > > in their wars against the Muslims, granting both a papal standard (the > > vexillum sancti Petri) and an indulgence to those who were killed in > > battle." > > > So I suppose at least one pope wasn't Christian? > > > AEF > > > AEF- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > the crusades were wrong ... Correct. So you're saying at least one pope wasn't a Christian? Please confirm or deny and explain. > God does not want anyone to be forced How do you know there even is "God"? > > to repent and live for Him ... How do you know? > Jesus Christ did not go around forcing > > people to convert ... No comment. > that has to be your choice ... Fine. > YOU decide where > > you will spend eternity ... It's called the grave. I don't believe there is an afterlife. Consider an infant, or fetus, or embryo. What are they like in the afterlife? Is an embryo still an embryo? If not, how does it work? How does an embryo repent, for example? There's more, but I'll start with this. AEF ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:53:51 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OT: Universal healthcare in England failing - boy dies ! Message-ID: <47d2fd86$0$25429$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> ultradwc@gmail.com wrote: > those who kill in the name of God are NOT Christians ... Those who kill in the name of Allha are not good muslims either. But it doesn't detract from that fact that there are extremists who kill and find some sort of religious justification for their acts. You only need to look at your current president. As governor of texas, he killed people. (death penalty). And as president, has massacred a country and responsible for over 150,000 deaths, countless injuries and torture. Yet, because he says he is a religious person and because he is against killing cells in a test tube, the religious right in the USA support him. Go figure. Religious nutters of any religion are dangerous. They think they act on behalf of God and that it gives them the right to do stuff that is unacceptable. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:12:06 -0600 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: OT: Universal healthcare in England failing - boy dies ! Message-ID: <47D37FB6.64C5DB81@spam.comcast.net> ultradwc@gmail.com wrote: > > On Feb 28, 9:37 pm, David J Dachtera > wrote: > > ultra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > here is a glance of things to come if Hillary or Obama implement > > > their healthcare plan ... the bbc did not report it but a teen died > > > while waiting on an ambulance that was setting at the hospital > > > with a patient inside because the hospitals were full and did not > > > want to violate a government mandate of a 4 hour must treat law. > > > > > Canada people coming here ... England people that have the money > > > flying to India to have surgery ... > > > > > don't worry, those rich liberal Harvard grads will be able to afford > > > it while those they claim to want to help will be dying waiting for > > > an ambulance ... > > > > > that what socialism does, it ruins a country ... > > > > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7249514.stm > > > > (Relax, folks, Boob is just trying to up the post tallies for this year > > to stem the downward spiral of VMS. Maybe the "MI5" guy will help him > > out.)- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Hillary won ... her socialist healthcare system and these kind > of results like above are getting closer to becoming reality here ... Guess I'll have to study up on the HRC$ routines in the RTL and see what can be done about that. David J Dachtera (formerly dba) DJE Systems ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:02:52 GMT From: "John Vottero" Subject: Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:47d1f21d$0$25450$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > Last week, I ported from VMS to OS-X a small C program that generates > lottery numbers (and postscript which then puts the squares in the right > locations on the forms). > > Turns out that the Apple random number generator is far better than VMS' > because on the first time I used the Mac generated numbers, I won a > whopping $10 at the lottery. Statistically, my program on a MAC is 100% > succesful at generating a winning number, whereas on VMS it rarely > generated a winning number (and it was just a free ticket :=( > > So there you go, undeniable proof that Macintosh is better than VMS. Many lotteries are run on OpenVMS and when those systems pick the winning numbers, they *ALWAYS* get it right! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:39:45 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: <47d323bc$0$90275$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> John Vottero wrote: > "JF Mezei" wrote in message > news:47d1f21d$0$25450$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... >> Last week, I ported from VMS to OS-X a small C program that generates >> lottery numbers (and postscript which then puts the squares in the right >> locations on the forms). >> >> Turns out that the Apple random number generator is far better than VMS' >> because on the first time I used the Mac generated numbers, I won a >> whopping $10 at the lottery. Statistically, my program on a MAC is 100% >> succesful at generating a winning number, whereas on VMS it rarely >> generated a winning number (and it was just a free ticket :=( >> >> So there you go, undeniable proof that Macintosh is better than VMS. > > Many lotteries are run on OpenVMS and when those systems pick the > winning numbers, they *ALWAYS* get it right! The winning numbers usually (always ??) comes from a drawing machine. I am no aware of any drawing machine running VMS. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:17:02 -0800 (PST) From: AEF Subject: Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: <75c06824-6e08-4180-b139-7541398f868f@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On Mar 8, 6:39 pm, Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: > John Vottero wrote: > > "JF Mezei" wrote in message > >news:47d1f21d$0$25450$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > >> Last week, I ported from VMS to OS-X a small C program that generates > >> lottery numbers (and postscript which then puts the squares in the righ= t > >> locations on the forms). > > >> Turns out that the Apple random number generator is far better than VMS= ' > >> because on the first time I used the Mac generated numbers, I won a > >> whopping $10 at the lottery. Statistically, my program on a MAC is 100%= > >> succesful at generating a winning number, whereas on VMS it rarely > >> generated a winning number (and it was just a free ticket :=3D( > > >> So there you go, undeniable proof that Macintosh is better than VMS. > > > Many lotteries are run on OpenVMS and when those systems pick the > > winning numbers, they *ALWAYS* get it right! > > The winning numbers usually (always ??) comes from a drawing > machine. > > I am no aware of any drawing machine running VMS. > > Arne Probably always. I'd think you'd have serious credibility issues if the computer picked it. Since computers actually use pseudorandom number sequences, the credibility issue only gets worse. To be really fair, you need the usual machine with the balls bounding around or perhaps you could set up a pure random number generator based on radioactive decay or some other random quantum process, but I think most people would trust the ball machine more, and I understand why. AEF ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:33:18 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: <47d34ce5$0$10314$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> AEF wrote: > radioactive decay or some other random quantum process, but I think > most people would trust the ball machine more, and I understand why. Prio to the 1976 Montreal olympics, there was an "Olympic lottery" (to raise money for the event). The first draw was a big TV ceremony. The winning numbers were printed on a decwriter with a camera focusing on the pint-head and the numbers that appeared. In terms of trusting the balls, the conspiracy theorist in me says that they decide which numbers will win, then take the pre-recorded video sequences of each ball falling out of the machine and assemble what seems to be a uninterrupted flow of balls coming out of the machine :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) (or with CGI, they can probably generate the whole video in one shot with the pre-selected balls coming out in whatever order they want). :-) :-) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:11:18 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: <47d35553$0$90265$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> AEF wrote: > or > perhaps you could set up a pure random number generator based on > radioactive decay or some other random quantum process, You can buy hardware cards that provides true random bits. I don't know what they use as source. But the stuff you mention sounds very likely. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:12:41 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: Proof that macintosh is better than VMS Message-ID: <47d355a5$0$90265$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> JF Mezei wrote: > (or with CGI, they can probably generate the whole > video in one shot CGI ? In this forum that would usually mean Common Gateway Interface, but I guess you mean Computer Generated Imagery. Arne ------------------------------ Date: 8 Mar 2008 15:22:07 -0600 From: BEGINcornelius@decuserve.orgEND (George Cornelius) Subject: Re: Shadow set problem finally solved Message-ID: In article , Pete writes: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:09:44 -0800 (PST), tadamsmar > wrote: > > > Maybe if you posted all the messages returned from the ana/disk/read > someone might be able to pick somethin out. This thing really seems to be going nowhere. It sure seems to me that this is a standard, pure-vanilla problem of a shadow set having a forced error that VMS replicates on every shadow copy, something that's been around since Phase I shadowing and RA series drives. If that is the case, the solution is to overwrite the block in question. You should, just to be thorough, examine [000000]BADBLK.SYS and if it has any allocation, check its LBN's with $ DUMP/HEADER/BLOCK=C:0 . If your block's not there, and if it's not already in some other file, you have to allocate the block somehow. I've done it in the past by extending an existing zero-length file with some Macro code and an allocation XAB, something that's not too difficult once you home in on the correct settings, as in ExtendALQ=1 StartLBN=16578125 ExtendXAB: $XABALL ALQ=ExtendALQ,AOP=,ALN=LBN,LOC=StartLBN But you can also do this: $ create/fdl=sys$input JUNK.TMP001 area 0;allocation 1;contig yes;exact_positioning yes;position logical 16578125 Note that this seems to work as long as the cluster containing the block is available, in which case the starting point will be as much as cluster_size - 1 earlier than was requested. Once you have the block allocated into a file, say 0 blocks in use of N blocks allocated, write to the file, making sure there is enough data to overwrite the bad block. Remember that you should write at least one cluster's worth of data even though you only asked for one block to be allocated. After redoing the shadow copy and checking that your errors have, in fact, gone away and everything is stable, you can delete the temporary file. [I haven't done this for a long time, so it's from memory. If this fails, init/erase a target drive, then back up to it from your master copy]. -- George Cornelius cornelius A T eisner D O T decus D O T org cornelius A T mayo D O T edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:26:33 -0800 (PST) From: AEF Subject: Re: VMS advertising ! Message-ID: <887a3edf-4068-47e0-8776-f4fc320969ff@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> On Mar 4, 5:06 pm, JF Mezei wrote: > Would you believe some mainstream advertising for VMS ? Holy mother of > God, it has happened ! > > http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080304/0370310.html > > Press Release > > VMS Processes One Millionth Unpaid Parking Violation for the U.S. Auto > Rental Industry > Tuesday March 4, 11:44 am ET Source text from Wikipedia for VMS: '''VMS''' may stand for: * [[OpenVMS]] and [[FreeVMS]], a computer server operating system * [[Variable-message sign]], an electronic traffic sign often used on highways * [[Vendor Management System]], a process or system for managing vendors (e.g., temporary staff) * [[Video Monitoring Services]] * [[Visual Memory System]], a storage device for the Sega Dreamcast console better known as a Visual Memory Unit (VMU) * [[Vital Management Statistics]], a performance-based metric system for productivity evaluation * [[Voice Mail System]] * [[Volcanogenic massive sulfide ore deposit]]s, a type of metal sulfide ore deposit * [[Voucher Management System]] * [[Voynich manuscript]], a mysterious illustrated book with incomprehensible contents * [[Vehicle Management Systems]] * [[Vessel monitoring system]], a near real-time, usually satellite- based, positional tracking system for fishing vessels * [[FocusFix Virtual Modelling System|Virtual Modelling System]] * [[Visual Measurement System]] * [[Vitamins, Minerals & Supplements]], products that provide extra nutrients like vitamin C. * [[Voyage Management System]], hardware and software that provide integrated, chart-based navigation for naval vessels * [[Visual Management System]], DVR Software & Hardware developer Glasgow www.vmsuk.com * [[Vallivue Middle School]], a middle school in the [[Vallivue School District]]. Of course I like "Very Much Stable". Or, for vanilla lovers, Vanilla Makes Smiles. With only 26 letters in the alphabet and over 300,000 words in the English language, having so many meanings for a given three-letter acronym (well, (at least for some) shouldn't be all that surprising. AEF ------------------------------ Date: 09 Mar 2008 02:39:01 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: VMS advertising ! Message-ID: <47d34dc5$0$15159$607ed4bc@cv.net> In article <887a3edf-4068-47e0-8776-f4fc320969ff@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, AEF writes: >On Mar 4, 5:06 pm, JF Mezei wrote: >> Would you believe some mainstream advertising for VMS ? Holy mother of >> God, it has happened ! >> >> http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080304/0370310.html >> >> Press Release >> >> VMS Processes One Millionth Unpaid Parking Violation for the U.S. Auto >> Rental Industry >> Tuesday March 4, 11:44 am ET > >Source text from Wikipedia for VMS: > >'''VMS''' may stand for: > >* [[OpenVMS]] and [[FreeVMS]], a computer server operating system >* [[Variable-message sign]], an electronic traffic sign often used on >highways >* [[Vendor Management System]], a process or system for managing >vendors (e.g., temporary staff) >* [[Video Monitoring Services]] >* [[Visual Memory System]], a storage device for the Sega Dreamcast >console better known as a Visual Memory Unit (VMU) >* [[Vital Management Statistics]], a performance-based metric system >for productivity evaluation >* [[Voice Mail System]] >* [[Volcanogenic massive sulfide ore deposit]]s, a type of metal >sulfide ore deposit >* [[Voucher Management System]] >* [[Voynich manuscript]], a mysterious illustrated book with >incomprehensible contents >* [[Vehicle Management Systems]] >* [[Vessel monitoring system]], a near real-time, usually satellite- >based, positional tracking system for fishing vessels >* [[FocusFix Virtual Modelling System|Virtual Modelling System]] >* [[Visual Measurement System]] >* [[Vitamins, Minerals & Supplements]], products that provide extra >nutrients like vitamin C. >* [[Voyage Management System]], hardware and software that provide >integrated, chart-based navigation for naval vessels >* [[Visual Management System]], DVR Software & Hardware developer >Glasgow www.vmsuk.com >* [[Vallivue Middle School]], a middle school in the [[Vallivue School >District]]. > >Of course I like "Very Much Stable". Or, for vanilla lovers, Vanilla >Makes Smiles. > >With only 26 letters in the alphabet and over 300,000 words in the >English language, having so many meanings for a given three-letter >acronym (well, (at least for some) shouldn't be all that surprising. What happened to the Voluntary Milking System? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.137 ************************