INFO-VAX Sat, 05 Apr 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 191 Contents: Re: Authentication for outgoing mail - PMDF Re: bug in SHOW STATUS Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:18:49 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: Authentication for outgoing mail - PMDF Message-ID: In article , david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk writes: > Over the years there have been a few discussions of ISP's > who require outgoing mail to be sent through their mailservers > and require that mail to be authenticated by the client providing > a username and password. > Someone running their own mailserver would be required to set it > up so that outgoing mail was similarly sent through the ISP's > central mailserver and authenticated. Unfortunately although > numerous public domain Unix mailservers could do this none of > the VMS mailservers could. Let me plug the excellent services of http://www.dynaccess.com/ where for EUR 85 per year you get (among other things) an IP-based SMTP server. Since it is mainly a dynamic-DNS service (though many other things are offered), your IP is known, so you can send email through SMTP relay server with no need for authentication (but the same result), from whatever sender address you need. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:58:56 -0400 From: Robert Deininger Subject: Re: bug in SHOW STATUS Message-ID: In article , Robert Deininger wrote: > In article , > helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to > reply) wrote: > > > This has been around forever, but only shows up on a fast machine: > > Yes, it's been around for more than 30 years. Mr. Cutler dated this > module 15-Apr-77. > > > Elapsed CPU :17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00 > > > > In other words, if it is zero, it is interpreted as an absolute time > > rather than a delta time. This is still not fixed in 8.3. > > > > I doubt it causes anyone trouble, but it would be nice if it were fixed, > > just to indicate that someone still cares. :-) > > Nor is it fixed in V8.3-1H1. > > $ spawn/nolog/nokey/nological/nosymbol show status > is failing about 70% of the time on one of my rx3600 systems, and nearly > as much on an Alphaserver GS1280. A 466 MHz DS10 is failing about 17% > of the time. > > I've queued up a fix for the next release (likely V8.4 Alpha & I64). > > Happy 30th Anniversary! An update... This SHOW STATUS bug is fixed in the following just-released patch kits: ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches Integrity: VMS83I_DCL-V0300 VMS821I_DCL-V0300 Alpha: VMS732_DCL-V1000 VMS82A_DCL-V0300 VMS83A_DCL-V0200 The V8.3-1H1 Integrity fix got entangled with an RMS kit which is in the pipeline, and which is apparently cursed. An exorcist has been called in. The RMS kit will probably appear in about a week. Then, finally, VMS won't be stuck in the 1800's any more. Enjoy! -- Robert No tildes were suppressed in the creation of this post. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:26:13 -0700 From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Message-ID: <47f680d6$1@flight> JF Mezei wrote: > >> Do you have references for this (eg who said it, when they said it, >> link to URL with this information) ? > > I my universe (which always seems to be ever so slighty different from > everyone else's, I distinctinly saw many posts from a very famous > former VMS engineer (whose name sounds like he is running out of breath) > that there were no plans to port VMS beyond IA64. Yeah, and that's exactly what they said about porting beyond Alpha when it was still around. > > Also, Livermore was asked by media about plans to port HP-UX and others > from IA64 and she re-itrerated that HP had no plans to port it to the > industry standard platform. > See above. > > So you may return to thinking all is well with VMS and that the > installed based is growing at a healthy pace with no problems. I guess everything is in black and white in the universe you live in. I'm not claiming HP *will* ever port VMS to another platform, I'm just pointing out that you have no evidence that they've ever said they *won't* (ie "no plans" != "won't do it"). They'd be pretty stupid to say they will port VMS while they're still trying to sell Itaniums (yes, I've bought them and yes, I'm quite happy with them - why don't you snag one off Ebay (they regularly go for under $1000) and try one yourself I've never said all is well in the VMS universe, but I prefer to support it by continuing to use it in mission critical applications where I work rather than moaning on c.o.v. about it being dead (of course you all know I'm perfectly willing to moan if I see HP doing something I think is stupid) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Galen Subject: Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Message-ID: <2ab6e5fe-cfd8-486e-a0cd-eacff7f23f2d@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Brendan, Thanks for the tip on my.indeed.com. I like the way the site is organized. It makes it simple to filter on combinations of location, company, etc., and seems to turn up as many VMS listings as any other job search site I've tried. Galen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:30:06 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Message-ID: <513da5cb-a87d-469c-8686-f6a1a88892c8@s33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Well spotted! I wondered about that spam message ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:12:01 -0700 (PDT) From: jd@idera.com Subject: Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Message-ID: I am the marketing director at BBS Technologies. I handle marketing for both PointSecure and Idera. Unfortunately, in my haste to announce Idera's new SQL admin toolset today, when I pulled the email list, I forgot to filter out the PointSecure emails. So -- as you already know -- when Idera's announcement went out today, it went to everyone at Idera AND PointSecure. Please understand that this was an honest (albeit airheaded) mistake on my part -- I apologize. I will make sure it doesn't happen again. If you'd like to drop me an email with your address, I'll be happy to send you a PointSecure hat as an apology. ------------------------------ Date: 04 Apr 2008 22:56:07 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Message-ID: <47f6b207$0$5622$607ed4bc@cv.net> In article , jd@idera.com writes: >I am the marketing director at BBS Technologies. I handle marketing >for both PointSecure and Idera. Unfortunately, in my haste to announce >Idera's new SQL admin toolset today, when I pulled the email list, I >forgot to filter out the PointSecure emails. So -- as you already >know -- when Idera's announcement went out today, it went to everyone >at Idera AND PointSecure. > >Please understand that this was an honest (albeit airheaded) mistake >on my part -- I apologize. I will make sure it doesn't happen again. > >If you'd like to drop me an email with your address, I'll be happy to >send you a PointSecure hat as an apology. Is it a pointy-headed hat? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) From: AEF Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <724dd1e6-0da7-4eb7-be86-2f5f8f05d0ec@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On Apr 3, 10:21 am, JF Mezei wrote: > Why doesn't VMS have a "SAY" command ? My Mac has one. > > > > > SAY(1) Speech Synthesis Manager SAY(1) > > > NAME > > say - Convert text to audible speech > > > SYNOPSIS > > say [-v voice] [-o out.aiff] [-f file | string ...] > > > DESCRIPTION > > This tool uses the Speech Synthesis manager to convert input text to > > audible speech and either play it through the sound output device cho- > > sen in System Preferences or save it to an AIFF file. [...] > > Oh, I forgot, they dropped all support for sound on VMS. It is a shame > because there are interesting uses for this with web servers dynamically > geneaing audible responses to and AIFF file streamed to the remote users > for instance. (See, even in a "server only" mode which VMS has been > relegated/restricted to, such a command owuld have some uses) Unless you were blind, why would you want this? AEF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:09:21 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <47f6c334$0$17479$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Rob Brooks wrote: > JF Mezei wrote: > Don't flatter yourself. Other than the few (10?) folks within VMS Engineering > who read this newsgroup, no one else would have any clue who you are. So, what you're saying is that there are only 10 left in the new england based VMS engineering ? :-) ;-) :-) :-) ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.191 ************************