INFO-VAX Wed, 09 Apr 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 199 Contents: Beef up your XP1000 or DS/ES series box Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Re: Immediate:TOLAS Programmer in McHenry, IL - DIRECT CLIENT Requirement Requir Re: Immediate:TOLAS Programmer in McHenry, IL - DIRECT CLIENT Requirement Re: Invoke program on pc? Re: Invoke program on pc? NetBackup Client for VMS Issue Ver 5.0 Re: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Proliant Office Systems - Re: Scripting SET HOST/DUP with Kermit (or other)? Tape Encryption Re: Tape Encryption Re: Tape Encryption Re: Tape Encryption Re: yet another compress question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:07:51 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Beef up your XP1000 or DS/ES series box Message-ID: U160 Dual Port SCSI Cards for XP1000> only $159 this week only Dual Port U160 controller 64 Bit You'll need VMS 7.3-1 or higher to use these cards -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 23:08:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Halle Subject: Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Message-ID: <98038343-32e3-49c2-a2a6-6745763158c3@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Alan, there is a current discussion in the ITRC OpenVMS forum about 'SSH Users dropped', which may be related: http://forums12.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1220134 Volker. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:31:37 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Message-ID: <00A77D59.26FDA9F9@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <47FC1961.108@csdco.com>, John Nebel writes: > > >Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: >> Gang -- >> >> Our Itanium machines run TCP/IP Services; our Alphas run Multinet, and I'm a >> lot more used to Multinet. On current (and recently past) versions of VMS >> (8.3, 8.31H1) and TCP/IP Services (5.6x) our incoming SSH connections have some >> kind of inactivity timeout - after five minutes they freeze up and/or drop the >> connection. >> >> For our uses, that's just incredibly annoying. We haven't found what knobs to >> twiddle to either extend or disable the timeout, and we certainly don't want >> to resort to cheesy tricks like running a program in a subprocess to update the >> time in one corner of the screen every minutes. >> >> So how can we disable the timeout, or lengthen the allowed inactive time? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- Alan > >Alan, > >You might check the TCP keepalive values with > >TCPIP> sysconfig -q inet > >esp. > >tcp_keepidle Specifies the amount of idle time, in seconds, before sending > a keepalive probe. The default interval is two hours. Will check it out! Thanks, -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:30:41 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Message-ID: <00A77D59.059F3FF2@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <98038343-32e3-49c2-a2a6-6745763158c3@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Volker Halle writes: >Alan, > >there is a current discussion in the ITRC OpenVMS forum about 'SSH >Users dropped', which may be related: > >http://forums12.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1220134 Thanks! Will check it out. -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:22:10 -0400 From: "Richard Whalen" Subject: Re: Extending/suppressing SSH session timeout under TCP/IP Services? Message-ID: "Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing" wrote in message news:00A77D1C.ACD55DA8@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU... > Gang -- > > Our Itanium machines run TCP/IP Services; our Alphas run Multinet, and I'm > a > lot more used to Multinet. On current (and recently past) versions of VMS > (8.3, 8.31H1) and TCP/IP Services (5.6x) our incoming SSH connections have > some > kind of inactivity timeout - after five minutes they freeze up and/or drop > the > connection. > > For our uses, that's just incredibly annoying. We haven't found what > knobs to > twiddle to either extend or disable the timeout, and we certainly don't > want > to resort to cheesy tricks like running a program in a subprocess to > update the > time in one corner of the screen every minutes. > > So how can we disable the timeout, or lengthen the allowed inactive time? > > Thanks, > > -- Alan > I don't know where the SSH server configuration file is stored with TCP/IP Services, but you might want to consider adding an IdleTimeOut parameter to it with what you feel is a long enough time that they are really idle. You might also consider a KeepAlive parameter. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 04:46:52 -0700 (PDT) From: yyyc186 Subject: Re: Immediate:TOLAS Programmer in McHenry, IL - DIRECT CLIENT Requirement Requir Message-ID: On Apr 8, 9:51 pm, David J Dachtera wrote: > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > > > I'm actually in the market for a new job but even I wouldn't take that. > > As a salary for a senior person, it sucks, but it might do, depending on > the bennies. McHenry is still close enough to the far-fringe of suburban > sprawl that you might be able to find affordable housing out that way. You pay for your own bennies out of that rate from the choices they offer. > > As a contract (1099) rate, yeah - it's a royal joke. They'd have to at > least double that. > They are looking for niche skills and attempting to pay less than "fresh out of college with no experience" rates. When you are looking for people with skills in older packages, doesn't matter what platform, you are looking for just a few trophy fish in a very big pond. In this particular case, around 5 left in the world that will admit to working with it, let alone be willing to do it. None of them are going to negotiate. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:34:25 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Immediate:TOLAS Programmer in McHenry, IL - DIRECT CLIENT Requirement Message-ID: yyyc186 wrote: > On Apr 8, 9:51 pm, David J Dachtera > wrote: >> Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> >>> I'm actually in the market for a new job but even I wouldn't take that. >> As a salary for a senior person, it sucks, but it might do, depending on >> the bennies. McHenry is still close enough to the far-fringe of suburban >> sprawl that you might be able to find affordable housing out that way. > > You pay for your own bennies out of that rate from the choices they > offer. > >> As a contract (1099) rate, yeah - it's a royal joke. They'd have to at >> least double that. >> > > They are looking for niche skills and attempting to pay less than > "fresh out of college with no experience" rates. When you are looking > for people with skills in older packages, doesn't matter what > platform, you are looking for just a few trophy fish in a very big > pond. In this particular case, around 5 left in the world that will > admit to working with it, let alone be willing to do it. None of them > are going to negotiate. The rate will improve when the few people who will work for a figure that low can't get the job done! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:45:39 GMT From: Hal Kuff Subject: Re: Invoke program on pc? Message-ID: In article <47fc216f$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > Hal Kuff wrote: > > Anyone have examples of a program on an openvms system starting a > > browser session on a deskop (knowing the ip) and passing a url? > > Would this be DCOM? Looking for code! > > Hopefully that can not be done without something explicit been > set up on the PC for it. > > I think the simple solution would be a small utility on the > PC that listen on a socket, accept a connection, verify some > username/password and execute the given command. > > Or find an rexec/rsh server for Windows (it is not built in). > > Arne Hi, thanks for the reply.... I have to poke around, I thought DCOM was it... could also do a socket program that calls vba I would think... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 02:41:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob Subject: Re: Invoke program on pc? Message-ID: On Apr 9, 9:45=A0am, Hal Kuff wrote: > In article <47fc216f$0$90268$14726...@news.sunsite.dk>, > =A0Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: > > > Hal Kuff wrote: > > > Anyone have examples of a program on an openvms system starting a > > > browser session on a deskop (knowing the ip) and passing a url? > > > Would this be DCOM? =A0Looking for code! > > > Hopefully that can not be done without something explicit been > > set up on the PC for it. > > > I think the simple solution would be a small utility on the > > PC that listen on a socket, accept a connection, verify some > > username/password and execute the given command. > > > Or find an rexec/rsh server for Windows (it is not built in). > > > Arne > > Hi, thanks for the reply.... I have to poke around, I thought DCOM was > it... could also do a socket program that calls vba I would think... Hal, you could probably do that using WRQ Reflections. It's possible to write VB Script in DCL to trigger Reflections. The script in Reflections would then trigger IE. Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 06:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: bmbrown@ihis.org Subject: NetBackup Client for VMS Issue Ver 5.0 Message-ID: Hi Folks I am trying to move my Netbackup client from one ES47 VMS 7.3.2 node to another. I can start the service on the new node using UCX ENABLE SERVICE BCD but when I run a CERT>UCX SET SERV BPCD/PORT=13782/INACT=5/LIMIT=50 /PROCESS_NAME=BPCD / USER=SYSTE M /SOCKET=(KEEP,RECEIVE:0,SEND:0) /FILE=SYS$SYSROOT: [BPCD]BPCD_STARTUP.COM CERT>UCX ENABLE SERVICE BPCD CERT>NBU I get the following NBU> SHOW CLIENT %NBU-E-NOCLIENTRESP, client hnac (10.160.40.26) is not responding %NBU-E-READSESSERR, read session error NBU> EXIT Any suggestions? Thank You Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:06:59 GMT From: D Gillbilly Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Message-ID: <47fca100.851110078@news.aliant.net> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:33:50 +0000, "Main, Kerry" wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: D Gillbilly [mailto:gillbilly@ns.sympatico.ca] >> Sent: April 6, 2008 9:53 AM >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and >> Telecom Markets >> >> On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:50:48 +0000, "Main, Kerry" >> wrote: >> >> >All, >> > >> >The readers of this list might be interested in the following links: >> > >> >http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA1-7816ENW.pdf (Feb 2008) >> >http://tinyurl.com/2kpvhw (see video testimonial as well) >> >"World's largest financial exchange organization delivers superior >> service with >> >HP OpenVMS clusters on HP Integrity server blades Deutsche Börse Group >> processes >> >tens of millions of transactions daily with less than 10-millisecond >> response >> >times [see rest of brochure] >> > >> >http://tinyurl.com/2leclp (see video testimonial as well) >> >"Messaging service provider stays ahead of a booming text-messaging >> market. Service >> >provider grows to deliver more than half of the world's mobile >> messages-with minimal >> >changes to its infrastructure. >> > >> >"We built our SMS service on top of HP BladeSystem and the HP OpenVMS >> operating >> >system because of the high availability and clustering capabilities of >> the solution. >> >We've been able to scale our system to become an industry leader while >> providing >> >continuous service to our customers." >> >-- Steven van Zeanen, Vice President of Marketing, Acision >> > >> > >> >http://tinyurl.com/3bth2y >> >World's fastest-growing equity options exchange trades up to HP >> Integrity-OpenVMS >> >Architecture. >> > >> >"The HP OpenVMS operating system on Integrity servers is extremely >> stable with >> >excellent capacity and availability. We have found its reliability, >> security, and >> >clustering features to be valuable and to uniquely meet our >> performance demands." >> >Richard Ens, Head of System, Storage, and Network Engineering, >> >International Securities Exchange >> > >> > >> > >> >Regards >> > >> >Kerry Main >> >Senior Consultant >> >HP Services Canada >> >Voice: 613-254-8911 >> >Fax: 613-591-4477 >> >kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom >> >(remove the DOT's and AT) >> > >> >OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. >> > >> >> Hi Kerry, >> >> I really enjoy reading OpenVMS news, but... >> >> http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA1-7816ENW.pdf (Feb 2008) >> >> http://tinyurl.com/2kpvhw (see video testimonial as well) >> "World's largest financial exchange organization delivers superior >> service with >> HP OpenVMS clusters on HP Integrity server blades Deutsche Börse Group >> processes >> tens of millions of transactions daily with less than 10-millisecond >> response >> times [see rest of brochure] >> >> From page 1 >> >> Approach: ... for small- to mid-sized computing needs ... >> >> My response: >> >> Just to simply sit on my hands and smile? :-) >> >> Thanks!!! :-) :-) >> >> Duane >> >> >> My opinion on the importance of OpenVMS news and being able to find it. >> >> > >Well, the intent was to emphasize "clusters" of inexpensive blades where >each individual blade on their own is targeted for small to medium >businesses. After reading, I guess it could have been worded better. > >Having stated this, I don't think to many small to med businesses have >the following levels of transactions (extract from same 1st pg in PDF): > >Objective: >Process 40 to 50 million financial transactions daily with zero downtime >and 10-millisecond response times. > >:-) > >Regards > >Kerry Main >Senior Consultant >HP Services Canada >Voice: 613-254-8911 >Fax: 613-591-4477 >kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom >(remove the DOT's and AT) > >OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. > > > > Hi Kerry, >Well, the intent was to emphasize "clusters" of inexpensive blades where >each individual blade on their own is targeted for small to medium >businesses. After reading, I guess it could have been worded better. > I know, I know... But with no credibility, no support and no budget, I HAVE to be opportunistic :-) :-) While on the topic of news... Question? Where should I go to get current OpenVMS news? My short list contains: OpenVMS.org - OpenVMS Community Portal HoffmanLabs - OpenVMS services, support, info and opinion COV IT resource center forums - OpenVMS What OpenVMS news am I missing? I get a good feeling about OpenVMS when I read... *** A Classic shooter game DOOM is available for OpenVMS *** (gaming on OpenVMS!) or *** Maklee Engineering Welcomes Guy Peleg *** (Specializing in advanced OpenVMS solutions) or *** TECNASA Moves COBOL Apps to Integrity *** (COBOL (VAX) Apps to Integrity with an Assist from Migration Specialties) or *** Bootcamp 2008 Sessions *** (on using OpenVMS with mixtures of servers and clients and protocols) ( ... almost time to retire my Oujia board and Magic 8 Ball. ;-)) Duane (I don't want to slight the important work that open source contributors make (as well as others), but I didn't know which one(s) to pick for my list :-() ------------------------------ Date: 09 Apr 2008 11:28:24 GMT From: Simon Clubley Subject: Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Message-ID: <47fca857$0$90267$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> On 2008-04-08, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > Simon Clubley wrote: >> >> AIUI, it's not so much the fact that it's a easy to use language for >> beginners that's the problem, but the fact that it's a easy to use >> language with security tacked on afterwards that's the problem. > > Security is not a feature in programming languages. Security depends > on how the code is written. > Strictly speaking, you are correct. However, I would argue that design decisions within the programming language can help with how secure that code is by default. For example, looking at traditional languages, I would suggest that, for programmers of equal capability, code written in Ada is more likely to be secure than code written in C. (And yes Bill, I _know_ that you can write secure code in C. :-) I'm just saying that some languages make it easier to write secure code.) Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980's technology to a 21st century world ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:15:26 +0100 From: Tom Wade Subject: Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Message-ID: > Good point. What do you guys use? I looked at your www do you use > VMS for your mail server? Absolutely. OpenVMS platform. Multinet TCP/IP stack. PMDF mailer. Sophos VSWEEP (with vFastScan turbocharger) & PreciseMail Anti-Spam. Lots of home developed stuff added on. Not only do we use the above for our mail filtering service (which pays our salaries), we are also the country support for PMDF, PreciseMail & Multinet (vFastScan is our own product), so we are big fans of VMS. My own mail/news client is Thunderbird, configured to use IMAP off my VMS workstation (PMDF IMAP client serving VMSMAIL folders). That way if my toy (*) goes belly up, the mail folders are safe on the VMS box. (*) anything running Windows. --------------------------------------------------------- Tom Wade | EMail: tee dot wade at eurokom dot ie EuroKom | Tel: +353 (1) 296-9696 A2, Nutgrove Office Park | Fax: +353 (1) 296-9697 Rathfarnham | Disclaimer: This is not a disclaimer Dublin 14 | Tip: "Friends don't let friends do Unix !" Ireland ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 2008 16:22:14 GMT From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Message-ID: <6648pmF2ifqq2U1@mid.individual.net> In article <47fc244e$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, Arne Vajhøj writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> I work in a school with a graduate program in Software Engineering. >> It's all based on the supposed model devloped by SEI. I haven't seen >> anything that even begins to approach the "Software Engineering" we >> were doing 30 years ago before the term was even foisted on the IT >> industry. > > My impression is that software engineering has advances quite a bit > the last 20 years. But different universities, different students > and different criteria s may explain the difference. What they teach as the SE methodology does not even come close to the amount of "engineering" we put into projects back in my applications programming days (late 70's early 80's). And we won't even go into the fact that the teaching is all lip service because none of the students actually apply it to their coursework and none of the professors seem to care. > >> And languages like PHP and Perl are based on a paradigm >> that is the antithesis of SE. The people using them make the old >> BASIC programmers look like consumate professionals!! I wonder what >> Dijkstra would have said about these languages as compared to his >> "love" of BASIC. :-) > > I am not good enough in Perl to comment on that. > > PHP support well structured procedural and object oriented > programming. > > PHP does not even have a goto statement. Just like one can write good programs even with GOTO, the lack of one does not magically make programs written in a language structured, elegant or proper. "Rapid prototyping" languages by their very nature and the paradigm they espouse are the antithesis of SE. > > I doubt that Dijkstra would have anything bad to say about > that. Based on all the things wrong with the underlying paradigm of the language, the least of which is a non-existant security model, I would hope you were wrong. Sadly, we will never know. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: 9 Apr 2008 16:26:15 GMT From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Message-ID: <664917F2ifqq2U2@mid.individual.net> In article <47fca857$0$90267$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, Simon Clubley writes: > On 2008-04-08, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> Simon Clubley wrote: >>> >>> AIUI, it's not so much the fact that it's a easy to use language for >>> beginners that's the problem, but the fact that it's a easy to use >>> language with security tacked on afterwards that's the problem. >> >> Security is not a feature in programming languages. Security depends >> on how the code is written. >> > > Strictly speaking, you are correct. > > However, I would argue that design decisions within the programming > language can help with how secure that code is by default. > > For example, looking at traditional languages, I would suggest that, > for programmers of equal capability, code written in Ada is more likely > to be secure than code written in C. > > (And yes Bill, I _know_ that you can write secure code in C. :-) I'm > just saying that some languages make it easier to write secure code.) No argument from me. I have used both C and Ada (and more than a dozen other languages over the years) and they all have their place. While I always argue that there is nothing inherently wrong with the C language I am also a very strong supporter of choosong the right language for the job. I wouldn't write an Accounts Receivable program in C and I wouldn't write an OS in COBOL. :-) Oh yeah, and I wouldn't write anything in PHP. :-) bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:32:11 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Php invented by a former DECcie ? Message-ID: Bill Gunshannon wrote: > In article <47fc244e$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, > Arne Vajhøj writes: >> Bill Gunshannon wrote: >>> I work in a school with a graduate program in Software Engineering. >>> It's all based on the supposed model devloped by SEI. I haven't seen >>> anything that even begins to approach the "Software Engineering" we >>> were doing 30 years ago before the term was even foisted on the IT >>> industry. >> My impression is that software engineering has advances quite a bit >> the last 20 years. But different universities, different students >> and different criteria s may explain the difference. > > What they teach as the SE methodology does not even come close to the > amount of "engineering" we put into projects back in my applications > programming days (late 70's early 80's). And we won't even go into > the fact that the teaching is all lip service because none of the > students actually apply it to their coursework and none of the > professors seem to care. > >>> And languages like PHP and Perl are based on a paradigm >>> that is the antithesis of SE. The people using them make the old >>> BASIC programmers look like consumate professionals!! I wonder what >>> Dijkstra would have said about these languages as compared to his >>> "love" of BASIC. :-) >> I am not good enough in Perl to comment on that. >> >> PHP support well structured procedural and object oriented >> programming. >> >> PHP does not even have a goto statement. > > Just like one can write good programs even with GOTO, the lack of one > does not magically make programs written in a language structured, > elegant or proper. "Rapid prototyping" languages by their very nature > and the paradigm they espouse are the antithesis of SE. > >> I doubt that Dijkstra would have anything bad to say about >> that. > > Based on all the things wrong with the underlying paradigm of the > language, the least of which is a non-existant security model, I > would hope you were wrong. Sadly, we will never know. > > bill > Ummm.... Just how do you build "security" into a programming language? Does "C" have security? Macro-32?? Fortran? PL/1? DCL? I've never actually used some of the newer languages like PERL, PHP, and doubtless others I've either not heard of or have forgotten. If I can't do it in DCL, Fortran, C, Macro-32, sh, or ksh I can't do it! Someday maybe I'll encounter a problem which none of the tools I'm accustomed to can handle. Then I'll learn a new tool. I've always thought of security being a function of the O/S which does, or should, control who can access files with intent to change them, who can execute a program, who can peek into memory that does not belong to him, etc, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:02:51 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Proliant Office Systems - Message-ID: To compliment your Alpha and Vax systems, we have in stock some very well priced Proliants . Before anyone says anything about them not being pertinent to this newsgroup, I hope that the DS10L giveaway will redeem us... Proliant ML150 Brand NEW in Box Dual Core Xeon 3Ghz with 2 x 2MB Cache (seen as dual CPU) 2GB Memory (2 x 1GB DIMMS) 6 x SATA Disk Slots (with built in RAID controller) 2 x 400GB Seagate SATA 7200RPM Disk in Canisters Gigabit NIC DVD-RW/DL/CDRW Extremely quiet (perfect office machine) No OS - runs Ubuntu, REDHat and Windoze very very fast Price is $1599 + Shipping US Shipping is about $70 -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:33:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken.Fairfield@gmail.com Subject: Re: Scripting SET HOST/DUP with Kermit (or other)? Message-ID: On Apr 2, 8:45 am, Jim wrote: [...] > > I think that HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA alone will be adequate for what you're > doing. Just to close on this subject, I finally got the time this morning to test and HSDSA-SCRIPT is precisely what I need for this task. As a very short overview for those who (1) have old HS controllers like I do, and (2) haven't encountered this program before, when you RUN HSDSA-SCRIPT, it prompts for (a) a "command" file containing commands to send to the controller, (b) the name of a log file to write output to, and (c) the name of the controller. When it's completed the commands for the controller given in (c), it goes through its prompts again. Giving the word "NONE" at the first (re-)prompt terminates the session. So you can do as many or as few controllers in one "RUN" as you want. The way you wrap that in command procedure is (obviously) straight forward. Thanks again to everyone who responded! -Ken -- Ken Fairfield Who: Ken dot And dot Ann Where: Gmail dot Com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:38:30 -0700 (PDT) From: jhjr4381 Subject: Tape Encryption Message-ID: I just had a customer inquire about tape encryption and who (vendor) might have either encryption software or encryption hardware. They have a need to secure data before sending it offsite. Can anyone recommend someone who does this? Does VMS already perform this function? What would be the advantage(s) or disadvantage(s) of hardware vs software encryption? (now I'm curious) No solicitation please! This is not for me, but for a customer. Thanks, Dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:01:54 +0100 From: "R.A.Omond" Subject: Re: Tape Encryption Message-ID: jhjr4381 wrote: > I just had a customer inquire about tape encryption and who (vendor) > might have either encryption software or encryption hardware. They > have a need to secure data before sending it offsite. > Can anyone recommend someone who does this? Does VMS already perform > this function? What would be the advantage(s) or disadvantage(s) of > hardware vs software encryption? (now I'm curious) > No solicitation please! This is not for me, but for a customer. VMS 8.3 $ help backup /encrypt BACKUP /ENCRYPT /ENCRYPT=([key] [,ALGORITHM=algorithm]) Creates and restores encrypted save sets. Specify the /ENCRYPT qualifier anywhere on the BACKUP command line. etc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:06:39 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: Tape Encryption Message-ID: <0bd9d068-9e70-4810-9741-92d804ca05ca@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> VMS BACKUP on V8.3 has AES encryption support. You need a fast system to use it though. There are tape drives with encryption built in. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:54:04 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: Tape Encryption Message-ID: <4E5Lj.20738$%15.19441@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Quantum makes an LTO drive with Encryption http://www.quantum.com/Products/TapeDrives/LTOUltrium/LTO-4HH/Index.aspx -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "IanMiller" wrote in message news:0bd9d068-9e70-4810-9741-92d804ca05ca@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com... > VMS BACKUP on V8.3 has AES encryption support. You need a fast system > to use it though. > > There are tape drives with encryption built in. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 00:11:24 -0700 (PDT) From: parnold@bellfruitgames.co.uk Subject: Re: yet another compress question Message-ID: <53d935c1-a9e0-49fc-addd-26eabc3f861e@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> On Apr 8, 2:42=A0pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > There's a commercial service in New York that specializes in recovering > data from weird media or damaged media. =A0They MAY also be able to deal > with strange compression schemes. > Thanks for the info Richard. I have made some progress. The compression is lzw with a few bytes at the beginning of the file which aren't compressed. There are some additional control codes for end-of-record and other stuff. Not got far though because it only decompresses upto the point where lzw changes to 10 bits and then it produces garbage so I only get about 300 bytes of valid data :( At least there's a glimmer of hope. 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