INFO-VAX Sat, 31 May 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 303 Contents: China responsible for past major power outages? Where is OpenVMS? Re: CVS on VMS Re: CVS on VMS Do you need a translator? FREE Tutorials on HTML XHTML CSS JavaScript XML XSL ASP SQL ADO VBScript, SAP - Re: LBR function result codes still not available Re: php with osu 3.10a and openvms 8.3 Re: php with osu 3.10a and openvms 8.3 Which virtual tape library ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 06:08:30 -0700 (PDT) From: ultradwc@gmail.com Subject: China responsible for past major power outages? Where is OpenVMS? Message-ID: the power grid used to be controlled by vms, but now that some idiotic power companies have evidently gone to windoze and linux, that virus free vms platform that used to exist is now open to chinese hackers ... http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/cs_20080531_6948.php ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:23:31 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: CVS on VMS Message-ID: <00A7A63D.04D5F066@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <2f2d994a-c88c-40b0-a575-5a21861cd7a2@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, marlow.andrew@googlemail.com writes: >From googling I see that there have been attempts in the past to port >CVS to VMS. AFAICS this development seems to have wound up in a >backwater and I am not sure what the current state of play is. Can >anyone advise please? > >The reason I ask is that I am in an environment that uses VMS for >hysterical reasons. It is no longer a strategic platform and on a >project-by-project basis there are attempts to move off it. For >projects that are on it the source tends to be maintained using CMS. I >was wondering if the source could be hosted on a Unix machine where >the CVS server would be and then developers on VMS could use a VMS CVS >client. One benefit is that it would make the source available to more >people that need to see it that are not VMS developers. Any thoughts? There doesn't seem to be a VMS-based CVS or SVN repository. However, there is at least one Java-based CVS client, and if you're running Alpha or Itanium, you could ust that client for checkout/checkin. -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:06:37 +0100 From: "R.A.Omond" Subject: Re: CVS on VMS Message-ID: marlow.andrew@googlemail.com wrote: > [...snip...] > The reason I ask is that I am in an environment that uses VMS for > *hysterical* reasons. Not sure if that's an intentional typo ;-) Andrew, you at Bloomberg or Reuters ? Your environment sounds rather familiar ... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:22:31 -0700 (PDT) From: rudra Subject: Do you need a translator? Message-ID: Do you need a translator? Now post your project for free Get online experts support for your work. http://priyadevelops.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Dhanabal Subject: FREE Tutorials on HTML XHTML CSS JavaScript XML XSL ASP SQL ADO VBScript, SAP - Message-ID: <6974ab54-7caa-4c32-9908-cc3a49369ced@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com> access all computer tutorials for free visit http://freecomputertutorialz1.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Hein RMS van den Heuvel Subject: Re: LBR function result codes still not available Message-ID: On May 30, 8:39=A0pm, Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: > IanMiller wrote: > > lbrdef contains structures and constants needed to call the LBR$ > > routines. Not the condition values returned. > > Correct - it don't but it should ! Are you sure? Ok, I did not think this through too long, but it is not clear to me those definitions should ever be hardcoded. By having the linker resolve them, the library function providers have the opportunity to change the values without requiring between-version recompiles. Not that I expect the values will ever change, but they could. So my gutfeel is that application code should only define 'globalvalue int' for those return values it actually does something with. Therefor it must know the names and adding for example "globalvalue int LBR $_ILLCREOPT", while a little tedious, is the right thing to do. This sentiment is echoed in the C UserGuide : 3.9.4 Testing for Specific Return Status Values ... 2 ... "If you are checking return status values from other facilities, such as the SORT utility, you must explicitly declare the return values as globalvalue int. Consider the following example: globalvalue int SOR$_OPENIN;" The only minor problem I have with globalvalue is that it is more, seemingly unneeded work for the linker, and it robs the compiler from certain optimization opportunties. Those opportunities are larger for 16-bit returns, which are defined as literals from ssdef. hth, Hein. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:28:58 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: php with osu 3.10a and openvms 8.3 Message-ID: <00A7A63D.C7B368D4@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <48409e11$0$90276$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: >> In article , Chuck Aaron writes: >>> Will PHP run on OpenVMS 8.3 with the OSU 3.10a >>> webserver or will PHP require CSWS? >> >> You can download PHP from the CSWS website, install and run PHP. >> MOD_PHP won't work with OSU, but you can set up a presentation script for >> .PHP pages that runs the PHP interpreter. > >But still PHP 4.3.10 that is very old and not supported >any more by PHP development ? Yes, last I looked. I'd love to hear that HP plans an update and when the date for that would be, but I haven't heard anything. (It still works fine, and so far has met the needs of my site, but it would be very nice to get a VMS track in the main development stream, like Perl has.) -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:49:37 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: php with osu 3.10a and openvms 8.3 Message-ID: <48415772$0$90272$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > In article <48409e11$0$90276$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >> Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: >>> In article , Chuck Aaron writes: >>>> Will PHP run on OpenVMS 8.3 with the OSU 3.10a >>>> webserver or will PHP require CSWS? >>> You can download PHP from the CSWS website, install and run PHP. >>> MOD_PHP won't work with OSU, but you can set up a presentation script for >>> .PHP pages that runs the PHP interpreter. >> But still PHP 4.3.10 that is very old and not supported >> any more by PHP development ? > > Yes, last I looked. I'd love to hear that HP plans an update and when the > date for that would be, but I haven't heard anything. > > (It still works fine, and so far has met the needs of my site, but it would > be very nice to get a VMS track in the main development stream, like Perl has.) It obviously works as well as it has always done. And for a reasonable protected intranet environment, then it will be fine for 10 years. But PHP has announce that there will be no more security fixes after 8-AUG-2008. And after that it would be questionable whether it should be used for general internet access. Unless ofcourse someone see security patches as a problem in which case it would be a great product after that. :-) Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 00:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dax Subject: Which virtual tape library Message-ID: <29509f35-69a5-427e-b0bb-c8c6294637f6@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Hi, I want to implement a vmware infrastructure with a Virtual Tape library, which one can I use? I have seen that exist only VTL of the Falconstor, which other one can I use? Thanks in advance, Daniele ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.303 ************************