INFO-VAX Fri, 27 Jun 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 356 Contents: Re: Book "OpenVMS for Unix Users" DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Is DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP-V0504-15ECO7-1.PCSI a full kit? Re: Is DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP-V0504-15ECO7-1.PCSI a full kit? Re: Is DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP-V0504-15ECO7-1.PCSI a full kit? It would be nice to have on VMS Re: It would be nice to have on VMS Re: Subroutine(s) at end re-execute(s) if EXIT statement missing Re: Symbol Substitution Mystery Re: Symbol Substitution Mystery Re: Symbol Substitution Mystery Re: Tru64 file system source code now open source Re: Tru64 file system source code now open source Re: TTA0 port VMS Update going out on Tuesday ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:03:02 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Book "OpenVMS for Unix Users" Message-ID: <48643C46.C0CEC36D@spam.comcast.net> Ralf Folkerts wrote: > > Hi, > > while searching for Books that might help me getting into OpenVMS I > found the abovementioned Book "OpenVMS for Unix Users" (ISBN: > 1555583253) from Digital Press. > > However, I was unable to locate a Copy or find a Review. I searched > Alibris and the Sites mentioned in the OpenVMS-FAQ (inkl. elsevier) > amongst googling for it. > > Does anyone have a hint where that book might be available? Or could > anyone either recommend or disadvice that Book? I have been using Unix > (and FreeBSD and Linux) for many years now, so I hope that this book > might help me getting onto track faster... Have a look at the link at the top of this page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ Hope this helps. D.J.D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:54:20 -0700 From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Message-ID: <4863d7cc$1@flight> I have a DEGPA-SA (SX gigabit ethernet) adapter which I've been using just fine for several months in a DS10L. Yesterday I upgraded the server to a DS20E and moved the DEGPA over to it. It won't work in the new box. It's the same system disk copied over via image backup, so all the versions/patch levels are the same (VMS 8.3) A $SHOW DEVICE gives: Device EWA0:, device type DEGPA, is offline, network device, error logging is enabled, device is a template only. Error count 0 Operations completed 0 Owner process "" Owner UIC [SYSACC,SYSTEM] Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W Reference count 0 Default buffer size 512 Operating characteristics: Link down, Autonegotiation. Speed (Mbits/sec) 1000 Def. MAC addr 00-00-00-00-00-00 Current MAC addr 00-00-00-00-00-00 CLUE CONFIG shows: 2 PCI FFFFFFFF.81D19200 1 PCI FFFFFFFF.81D19860 38 FFFFFFFF.86D45800 40 7 PPB5 FFFFFFFF.81D198D8 40 FFFFFFFF.86D4E000 EC EWA: 8 DEGPA-SA (Gigabit Ethernet) FFFFFFFF.81D19950 48 FFFFFFFF.86D50800 DC PKA: 9 Qlogic ISP1020 SCSI-2 (I just snipped the relevant part). Any idea why VMS puts it "offline"? anything else I can check? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:18:34 -0400 From: "David" Subject: Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Message-ID: Malcolm What Openvms base license did you use. Doesn't it restrict networking when using the wrong number (too low) of units? -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International & Local: (001)- 404-806-7749 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "Malcolm Dunnett" wrote in message news:4863d7cc$1@flight... >I have a DEGPA-SA (SX gigabit ethernet) adapter which I've been using just >fine for several months in a DS10L. Yesterday I upgraded the server to a >DS20E and moved the DEGPA over to it. It won't work in the new box. > > It's the same system disk copied over via image backup, so all the > versions/patch levels are the same (VMS 8.3) > > A $SHOW DEVICE gives: > > Device EWA0:, device type DEGPA, is offline, network device, error logging > is > enabled, device is a template only. > > Error count 0 Operations completed 0 > Owner process "" Owner UIC [SYSACC,SYSTEM] > Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W > Reference count 0 Default buffer size 512 > > Operating characteristics: Link down, Autonegotiation. > > Speed (Mbits/sec) 1000 > Def. MAC addr 00-00-00-00-00-00 Current MAC addr 00-00-00-00-00-00 > > CLUE CONFIG shows: > > 2 PCI FFFFFFFF.81D19200 1 PCI > FFFFFFFF.81D19860 38 > FFFFFFFF.86D45800 40 7 PPB5 > FFFFFFFF.81D198D8 40 > FFFFFFFF.86D4E000 EC EWA: 8 DEGPA-SA (Gigabit Ethernet) > FFFFFFFF.81D19950 48 > FFFFFFFF.86D50800 DC PKA: 9 Qlogic ISP1020 SCSI-2 > > (I just snipped the relevant part). > > Any idea why VMS puts it "offline"? anything else I can check? > > Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:44:03 -0700 From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Message-ID: <4863e373$1@flight> David wrote: > Malcolm > What Openvms base license did you use. > Doesn't it restrict networking when using the wrong number (too low) of > units? > > It's a zero (unlimited) units license (from the Edu license program) I also have a DE602 in the box and it works fine, running DECNet, Cluster and Multinet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:23:58 +0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kari_Uusim=E4ki?= Subject: Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Message-ID: <4863fadf$0$15003$9b536df3@news.fv.fi> Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > I have a DEGPA-SA (SX gigabit ethernet) adapter which I've been using > just fine for several months in a DS10L. Yesterday I upgraded the server > to a DS20E and moved the DEGPA over to it. It won't work in the new box. > > It's the same system disk copied over via image backup, so all the > versions/patch levels are the same (VMS 8.3) > > A $SHOW DEVICE gives: > > Device EWA0:, device type DEGPA, is offline, network device, error > logging is > enabled, device is a template only. > > Error count 0 Operations completed 0 > Owner process "" Owner UIC [SYSACC,SYSTEM] > Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W > Reference count 0 Default buffer size 512 > > Operating characteristics: Link down, Autonegotiation. > > Speed (Mbits/sec) 1000 > Def. MAC addr 00-00-00-00-00-00 Current MAC addr 00-00-00-00-00-00 > > CLUE CONFIG shows: > > 2 PCI FFFFFFFF.81D19200 1 PCI > FFFFFFFF.81D19860 38 > FFFFFFFF.86D45800 40 7 PPB5 > FFFFFFFF.81D198D8 40 > FFFFFFFF.86D4E000 EC EWA: 8 DEGPA-SA (Gigabit Ethernet) > FFFFFFFF.81D19950 48 > FFFFFFFF.86D50800 DC PKA: 9 Qlogic ISP1020 SCSI-2 > > (I just snipped the relevant part). > > Any idea why VMS puts it "offline"? anything else I can check? > > Thanks. How about checking your network configuration (TCP/IP, DECnet-Plus, etc)? The adapter is most probably not in the slot where the earlier configuration expects. Regards, Kari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:43:11 -0700 (PDT) From: DaveG Subject: Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Message-ID: <7c11fb61-df09-4000-9a61-53e205a50fc8@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com> On Jun 26, 12:54=A0pm, Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > I have a DEGPA-SA (SX gigabit ethernet) adapter which I've been using > just fine for several months in a DS10L. Yesterday I upgraded the server > to a DS20E and moved the DEGPA over to it. It won't work in the new box. > > It's the same system disk copied over via image backup, so all the > versions/patch levels are the same (VMS 8.3) > > A $SHOW DEVICE gives: > > Device EWA0:, device type DEGPA, is offline, network device, error > logging is > =A0 =A0 =A0enabled, device is a template only. > > =A0 =A0 =A0Error count =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0Op= erations completed > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0Owner process =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "" =A0 =A0Owner = UIC > [SYSACC,SYSTEM] > =A0 =A0 =A0Owner process ID =A0 =A0 =A0 =A000000000 =A0 =A0Dev Prot > S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W > =A0 =A0 =A0Reference count =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0Defaul= t buffer size > =A0 =A0 =A0 512 > > Operating characteristics: Link down, Autonegotiation. > > =A0 =A0 =A0Speed (Mbits/sec) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1000 > =A0 =A0 =A0Def. MAC addr =A000-00-00-00-00-00 =A0 =A0Current MAC addr > 00-00-00-00-00-00 > > CLUE CONFIG shows: > > 2 PCI =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 FFFFFFFF.81D19200 =A0 =A01 PCI > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FFFFFFFF.81D19860 =A0 38 > FFFFFFFF.86D45800 =A0 40 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7 PPB5 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FFFFFFFF.81D198D8 =A0 40 > FFFFFFFF.86D4E000 =A0 EC EWA: =A0 =A08 DEGPA-SA (Gigabit Ethernet) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FFFFFFFF.81D19950 =A0 48 > FFFFFFFF.86D50800 =A0 DC PKA: =A0 =A09 Qlogic ISP1020 SCSI-2 > > (I just snipped the relevant part). > > Any idea why VMS puts it "offline"? anything else I can check? > > Thanks. Have you checked the firmware on the DS20E? I believe the latest version is 7.3 http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/firmware/readmes/ds20.html Dave... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:27:26 +0200 From: Jur van der Burg <"lddriver at digiater dot nl"> Subject: Re: DEGPA in DS20 shows "offline" Message-ID: <48647a3e$0$14347$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> VMS licenses have nothing to do with physical hardware, it oprerates way above that level (in the applications). Having said that, the card should work fine in this configuration starting form VMS V7.1-2. Is there a cable attached? Jur. David wrote: > Malcolm > What Openvms base license did you use. > Doesn't it restrict networking when using the wrong number (too low) of > units? > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:03:54 -0700 From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: <48642e76$1@flight> Another problem (same server that has the "offline" DEGPA, I'm beginning to think it's haunted). I have a DS20E clustered with an RX2600. Both have the MSCP server loaded and are serving all the disks ( as shown when I do a "show device/served" on either node. They each boot from a local SCSI system disk. I can see the disks on the RX2600 from the DS20E, but I can't see the disks on the DS20E from the RX2600 (both running VMS 8.3) The RX2600 is alloclass 91, the DS20E is alloclass 92. On DS20E: PQVMS1> sho dev/served MSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18 Queue Requests Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts $92$DKA0 Avail 71132000 0 0 0 $92$DKA200 Avail 71132000 0 0 0 $92$DQA0 Avail 16515072 0 0 0 $92$DQA1 Avail 512 0 0 0 $92$DQB0 Avail 512 0 0 0 $92$DQB1 Avail 512 0 0 0 TMSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18 Queue Requests Device: Status Position Current Max Hosts %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded PQVMS1> sho dev dk Device Device Error Volume Free Trans Mnt Name Status Count Label Blocks Count Cnt $91$DKA0: (PQORA) Mounted 0 (remote mount) 1 $91$DKA100: (PQORA) Online 0 $91$DKC0: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA1:) $91$DKC1: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA2:) $91$DKC2: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA3:) $91$DKC3: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA4:) $91$DKC4: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA5:) $91$DKC5: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA6:) $91$DKC6: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA7:) $91$DKC7: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA8:) $91$DKC8: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA11:) $92$DKA0: (PQVMS1) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA12:) $92$DKA200: (PQVMS1) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA12:) PQVMS1> On RX2600: PQORA> sho device/served MSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.93 Queue Requests Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts $91$DKC0 Online 51195840 0 0 1 $91$DKC1 Online 51195840 0 1 1 $91$DKC2 Online 51195840 0 0 1 $91$DKC3 Online 94365824 0 0 1 $91$DKC4 Online 51195840 0 0 1 $91$DKC5 Online 40955040 0 0 1 $91$DKC6 Online 40955040 0 0 1 $91$DKC7 Online 88895040 0 0 1 $91$DKC8 Online 838850112 0 0 1 $91$DQA0 Avail 16515072 0 0 0 $91$DQA1 Avail 512 0 0 0 $91$DKA0 Avail 71132960 0 0 0 $91$DKA100 Avail 0 0 0 0 TMSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.94 Queue Requests Device: Status Position Current Max Hosts %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded PQORA> sho dev dk Device Device Error Volume Free Trans Mnt Name Status Count Label Blocks Count Cnt $91$DKA0: (PQORA) Mounted 0 PQORA_PAGE 38400400 2 1 $91$DKA100: (PQORA) Online 0 $91$DKC0: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA1:) $91$DKC1: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA2:) $91$DKC2: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA3:) $91$DKC3: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA4:) $91$DKC4: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA5:) $91$DKC5: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA6:) $91$DKC6: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA7:) $91$DKC7: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA8:) $91$DKC8: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA11:) PQORA> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:05:57 GMT From: John Santos Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > Another problem (same server that has the "offline" DEGPA, I'm beginning > to think it's haunted). > > I have a DS20E clustered with an RX2600. Both have the MSCP server > loaded and are serving all the disks ( as shown when I do a "show > device/served" on either node. They each boot from a local SCSI system > disk. I can see the disks on the RX2600 from the DS20E, but I can't > see the disks on the DS20E from the RX2600 (both running VMS 8.3) > > The RX2600 is alloclass 91, the DS20E is alloclass 92. > > On DS20E: > > PQVMS1> sho dev/served > MSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts > $92$DKA0 Avail 71132000 0 0 0 > $92$DKA200 Avail 71132000 0 0 0 > $92$DQA0 Avail 16515072 0 0 0 > $92$DQA1 Avail 512 0 0 0 > $92$DQB0 Avail 512 0 0 0 > $92$DQB1 Avail 512 0 0 0 > > TMSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Position Current Max Hosts > %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded > PQVMS1> sho dev dk > > Device Device Error Volume Free > Trans Mnt > Name Status Count Label Blocks > Count Cnt > $91$DKA0: (PQORA) Mounted 0 (remote mount) > 1 > $91$DKA100: (PQORA) Online 0 > $91$DKC0: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA1:) > $91$DKC1: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA2:) > $91$DKC2: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA3:) > $91$DKC3: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA4:) > $91$DKC4: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA5:) > $91$DKC5: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA6:) > $91$DKC6: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA7:) > $91$DKC7: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA8:) > $91$DKC8: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA11:) > $92$DKA0: (PQVMS1) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA12:) > $92$DKA200: (PQVMS1) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA12:) > PQVMS1> > > On RX2600: > > PQORA> sho device/served > MSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.93 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts > $91$DKC0 Online 51195840 0 0 1 > $91$DKC1 Online 51195840 0 1 1 > $91$DKC2 Online 51195840 0 0 1 > $91$DKC3 Online 94365824 0 0 1 > $91$DKC4 Online 51195840 0 0 1 > $91$DKC5 Online 40955040 0 0 1 > $91$DKC6 Online 40955040 0 0 1 > $91$DKC7 Online 88895040 0 0 1 > $91$DKC8 Online 838850112 0 0 1 > $91$DQA0 Avail 16515072 0 0 0 > $91$DQA1 Avail 512 0 0 0 > $91$DKA0 Avail 71132960 0 0 0 > $91$DKA100 Avail 0 0 0 0 > > TMSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.94 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Position Current Max Hosts > %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded > PQORA> sho dev dk > > Device Device Error Volume Free > Trans Mnt > Name Status Count Label Blocks > Count Cnt > $91$DKA0: (PQORA) Mounted 0 PQORA_PAGE 38400400 > 2 1 > $91$DKA100: (PQORA) Online 0 > $91$DKC0: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA1:) > $91$DKC1: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA2:) > $91$DKC2: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA3:) > $91$DKC3: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA4:) > $91$DKC4: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA5:) > $91$DKC5: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA6:) > $91$DKC6: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA7:) > $91$DKC7: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA8:) > $91$DKC8: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA11:) > PQORA> > What are the MSCP_SERVE_ALL sysgen parameters on the two systems? Do you have any port allocation classes defined? (Maybe if some controller with no disks attached to on the DS10L has port allocation class 92, it is masking the disks from the RX2600.) Can you see the RX2600's IDE disks (DQA0:, presumably its CD/DVD drive) on the DS10L? (I don't see my 2nd IDE bus, DQBn:, listed in $ show device/served on my RX2620, but this might be due to a slight difference between the rx2600 and rx2620?!?) Has the DS10L been rebooted since the rx2600 joined the cluster with its current allocation class and MSCP-server settings? If not, has $ mcr sysman io autoconfig[/log] been done on the DS10L? (In the olden days, when HSC50's ruled the land of the dinosaurs, CONFIGURE seemed to pick up on new disks, but in neolithic era, it seems to need a little help from SYSMAN :-) -- John Santos Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:02:01 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0005B22A85257475_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Malcolm Dunnett wrote on 06/26/2008 08:03:54 PM: > Another problem (same server that has the "offline" DEGPA, I'm beginning > to think it's haunted). > > I have a DS20E clustered with an RX2600. Both have the MSCP server > loaded and are serving all the disks ( as shown when I do a "show > device/served" on either node. They each boot from a local SCSI system > disk. I can see the disks on the RX2600 from the DS20E, but I can't > see the disks on the DS20E from the RX2600 (both running VMS 8.3) > First impression - don't you want to see the DSA devices, not the members? Try SHOW DEVICE DSA > The RX2600 is alloclass 91, the DS20E is alloclass 92. > > On DS20E: > > PQVMS1> sho dev/served > MSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts > $92$DKA0 Avail 71132000 0 0 0 > $92$DKA200 Avail 71132000 0 0 0 > $92$DQA0 Avail 16515072 0 0 0 > $92$DQA1 Avail 512 0 0 0 > $92$DQB0 Avail 512 0 0 0 > $92$DQB1 Avail 512 0 0 0 > > TMSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Position Current Max Hosts > %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded > PQVMS1> sho dev dk > > Device Device Error Volume Free > Trans Mnt > Name Status Count Label Blocks > Count Cnt > $91$DKA0: (PQORA) Mounted 0 (remote mount) > > 1 > $91$DKA100: (PQORA) Online 0 > $91$DKC0: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA1:) > $91$DKC1: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA2:) > $91$DKC2: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA3:) > $91$DKC3: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA4:) > $91$DKC4: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA5:) > $91$DKC5: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA6:) > $91$DKC6: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA7:) > $91$DKC7: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA8:) > $91$DKC8: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA11:) > $92$DKA0: (PQVMS1) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA12:) > $92$DKA200: (PQVMS1) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA12:) > PQVMS1> > > On RX2600: > > PQORA> sho device/served > MSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.93 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Total Size Current Max Hosts > $91$DKC0 Online 51195840 0 0 1 > $91$DKC1 Online 51195840 0 1 1 > $91$DKC2 Online 51195840 0 0 1 > $91$DKC3 Online 94365824 0 0 1 > $91$DKC4 Online 51195840 0 0 1 > $91$DKC5 Online 40955040 0 0 1 > $91$DKC6 Online 40955040 0 0 1 > $91$DKC7 Online 88895040 0 0 1 > $91$DKC8 Online 838850112 0 0 1 > $91$DQA0 Avail 16515072 0 0 0 > $91$DQA1 Avail 512 0 0 0 > $91$DKA0 Avail 71132960 0 0 0 > $91$DKA100 Avail 0 0 0 0 > > TMSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.94 > > Queue Requests > Device: Status Position Current Max Hosts > %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded > PQORA> sho dev dk > > Device Device Error Volume Free > Trans Mnt > Name Status Count Label Blocks > Count Cnt > $91$DKA0: (PQORA) Mounted 0 PQORA_PAGE 38400400 > 2 1 > $91$DKA100: (PQORA) Online 0 > $91$DKC0: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA1:) > $91$DKC1: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA2:) > $91$DKC2: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA3:) > $91$DKC3: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA4:) > $91$DKC4: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA5:) > $91$DKC5: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA6:) > $91$DKC6: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA7:) > $91$DKC7: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA8:) > $91$DKC8: (PQORA) ShadowSetMember 0 (member of DSA11:) > PQORA> > --=_alternative 0005B22A85257475_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"



Malcolm Dunnett <nothome@spammers.are.scum> wrote on 06/26/2008 08:03:54 PM:

> Another problem (same server that has the "offline" DEGPA, I'm beginning
> to think it's haunted).
>
> I have a DS20E clustered with an RX2600. Both have the MSCP server
> loaded and are serving all the disks ( as shown when I do a "show
> device/served" on either node. They each boot from a local SCSI system
> disk. I can see the disks on the RX2600 from the DS20E, but I can't
> see the disks on the DS20E from the RX2600 (both running VMS 8.3)
>

First impression - don't you want to see the DSA devices, not the members?
Try SHOW DEVICE DSA

> The RX2600 is alloclass 91, the DS20E is alloclass 92.
>
> On DS20E:
>
> PQVMS1> sho dev/served
>         MSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18
>
>                                               Queue Requests
> Device:           Status      Total Size     Current    Max     Hosts
>      $92$DKA0       Avail        71132000           0      0         0
>      $92$DKA200     Avail        71132000           0      0         0
>      $92$DQA0       Avail        16515072           0      0         0
>      $92$DQA1       Avail             512           0      0         0
>      $92$DQB0       Avail             512           0      0         0
>      $92$DQB1       Avail             512           0      0         0
>
>         TMSCP-Served Devices on PQVMS1 26-JUN-2008 17:01:22.18
>
>                                               Queue Requests
> Device:           Status        Position     Current    Max     Hosts
> %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded
> PQVMS1> sho dev dk
>
> Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free
> Trans Mnt
>   Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
> Count Cnt
> $91$DKA0:      (PQORA)  Mounted              0  (remote mount)
>
>   1
> $91$DKA100:    (PQORA)  Online               0
> $91$DKC0:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA1:)
> $91$DKC1:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA2:)
> $91$DKC2:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA3:)
> $91$DKC3:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA4:)
> $91$DKC4:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA5:)
> $91$DKC5:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA6:)
> $91$DKC6:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA7:)
> $91$DKC7:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA8:)
> $91$DKC8:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA11:)
> $92$DKA0:     (PQVMS1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA12:)
> $92$DKA200:   (PQVMS1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA12:)
> PQVMS1>
>
> On RX2600:
>
> PQORA> sho device/served
>         MSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.93
>
>                                               Queue Requests
> Device:           Status      Total Size     Current    Max     Hosts
>      $91$DKC0      Online        51195840           0      0         1
>      $91$DKC1      Online        51195840           0      1         1
>      $91$DKC2      Online        51195840           0      0         1
>      $91$DKC3      Online        94365824           0      0         1
>      $91$DKC4      Online        51195840           0      0         1
>      $91$DKC5      Online        40955040           0      0         1
>      $91$DKC6      Online        40955040           0      0         1
>      $91$DKC7      Online        88895040           0      0         1
>      $91$DKC8      Online       838850112           0      0         1
>      $91$DQA0       Avail        16515072           0      0         0
>      $91$DQA1       Avail             512           0      0         0
>      $91$DKA0       Avail        71132960           0      0         0
>      $91$DKA100     Avail               0           0      0         0
>
>         TMSCP-Served Devices on PQORA 26-JUN-2008 17:02:31.94
>
>                                               Queue Requests
> Device:           Status        Position     Current    Max     Hosts
> %SHOW-E-TMSCPNOTLD, TMSCP-Server code not loaded
> PQORA> sho dev dk
>
> Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free
> Trans Mnt
>   Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
> Count Cnt
> $91$DKA0:      (PQORA)  Mounted              0  PQORA_PAGE    38400400
>     2   1
> $91$DKA100:    (PQORA)  Online               0
> $91$DKC0:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA1:)
> $91$DKC1:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA2:)
> $91$DKC2:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA3:)
> $91$DKC3:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA4:)
> $91$DKC4:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA5:)
> $91$DKC5:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA6:)
> $91$DKC6:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA7:)
> $91$DKC7:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA8:)
> $91$DKC8:      (PQORA)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA11:)
> PQORA>
>
--=_alternative 0005B22A85257475_=-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:39:18 GMT From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: norm.raphael@metso.com wrote: > First impression - don't you want to see the DSA devices, not the members? Nope. You can't serve shadowsets, you have to serve the underlying disks and form the shadowset separately on each node. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:41:12 GMT From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: John Santos wrote: > > What are the MSCP_SERVE_ALL sysgen parameters on the two systems? > MSCP_SERVE_ALL is 1 on both systems > Do you have any port allocation classes defined? (Maybe if some > controller with no disks attached to on the DS10L has port allocation > class 92, it is masking the disks from the RX2600.) > No port allocation classes defined > Can you see the RX2600's IDE disks (DQA0:, presumably its CD/DVD > drive) on the DS10L? (I don't see my 2nd IDE bus, DQBn:, listed in > $ show device/served on my RX2620, but this might be due to a slight > difference between the rx2600 and rx2620?!?) > Yes, I can see the rx2600's floppy and DVD from the alpha. > Has the DS10L been rebooted since the rx2600 joined the cluster > with its current allocation class and MSCP-server settings? I've rebooted the alphaserver several times. I've tried a sysman io auto on the IA64. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:27:33 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: <4864502f$0$22484$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > No port allocation classes defined If you have different machines with simular hardware, this causes conflicts. You can'ty have two DUA0: disks in the same cluster. ALLOCLASS was designed to make each device unique in a cluster. Gets a bit confusing if you have shaed access devices. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:38:10 GMT From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > >> No port allocation classes defined > > If you have different machines with simular hardware, this causes > conflicts. You can'ty have two DUA0: disks in the same cluster. > ALLOCLASS was designed to make each device unique in a cluster. > There are no port allocation classes defined, but each node has a node alloclass (91 on the Itanium, 92 on the alpha). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 03:12:26 GMT From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: Well, I rebooted the RX2600 again and now it sees the disks on the DS20E (it didn't when I rebooted it previously). I don't know what to attribute it to, but it's working now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:07:32 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: <48646795$0$10747$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > Well, I rebooted the RX2600 again and now it sees the disks > on the DS20E (it didn't when I rebooted it previously). is the CONFIGURE progress still in charge of creating the disk devices that come on-line on some other nodes ? Are there any DCL commands to control CONFIGURE (for instance telling it to rescall list of available devices on the cluster to create any new ones on this node) ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:13:02 -0500 (CDT) From: sms@antinode.info (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: IA64 system can't see disks served from Alpha Message-ID: <08062623130262_20200492@antinode.info> From: Malcolm Dunnett > Well, I rebooted the RX2600 again and now it sees the disks > on the DS20E (it didn't when I rebooted it previously). > > I don't know what to attribute it to, but it's working now. Everywhere: show system /process = configure If it's not running, you may see problems like this. A search through comp.os.vms for something like: one-way MSCP disk serving should find a previous discussion. In my case, the problem was a quirk in the way things were done (or _not_) when I set STARTUP$AUTOCONFIGURE_ALL == 0 in SYS$MANAGER:SYCONFIG.COM. If, by chance, you've done that, there are other steps which must be taken to do manually some other tasks which that change unexpectedly prevents from happening (such as starting the CONFIGURE process). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-info 382 South Warwick Street (+1) 651-699-9818 Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:01:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken.Fairfield@gmail.com Subject: Is DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP-V0504-15ECO7-1.PCSI a full kit? Message-ID: All, I'm preparing to migrate a bunch of Alphas at VMS 7.3-2 running Multinet 4.4A (yes, old!), to TCP/IP Services 5.4 ECO7. I've got a couple of questions. 1) Is the ECO7 a full kit, or do I need to install V5.6 from a full kit first? 2) We get the quarterly SPL distributions, but I can't find any operating system CDs or the associated "integrated" products, like DECnet and TCP/IP services. Are those only available through some other subscription? The main thing I need to do, and soon, is get a test system up on TCP/IP Services so I need what ever are the needed kits as soon as possible. Thanks, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:38:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David B Sneddon Subject: Re: Is DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP-V0504-15ECO7-1.PCSI a full kit? Message-ID: <51726dd0-c12e-45b9-820c-ec55ccde6ffa@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Jun 26, 10:01 pm, Ken.Fairfi...@gmail.com wrote: > All, > > I'm preparing to migrate a bunch of Alphas at > VMS 7.3-2 running Multinet 4.4A (yes, old!), to > TCP/IP Services 5.4 ECO7. I've got a couple of > questions. > > 1) Is the ECO7 a full kit, or do I need to > install V5.6 from a full kit first? > > 2) We get the quarterly SPL distributions, > but I can't find any operating system > CDs or the associated "integrated" > products, like DECnet and TCP/IP services. > Are those only available through some > other subscription? > > The main thing I need to do, and soon, is get > a test system up on TCP/IP Services so I need > what ever are the needed kits as soon as possible. > > Thanks, Ken Yes it is. I believe that the "-1" before the ".PCSI" identifies the type of kit, with 1 being a full kit. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:14:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken.Fairfield@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is DEC-AXPVMS-TCPIP-V0504-15ECO7-1.PCSI a full kit? Message-ID: <7126ddd5-87d0-4453-918e-1edb33d5199e@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Jun 26, 4:38 pm, David B Sneddon wrote: > On Jun 26, 10:01 pm, Ken.Fairfi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > All, > > > I'm preparing to migrate a bunch of Alphas at > > VMS 7.3-2 running Multinet 4.4A (yes, old!), to > > TCP/IP Services 5.4 ECO7. I've got a couple of > > questions. > > > 1) Is the ECO7 a full kit, or do I need to > > install V5.6 from a full kit first? > > > 2) We get the quarterly SPL distributions, > > but I can't find any operating system > > CDs or the associated "integrated" > > products, like DECnet and TCP/IP services. > > Are those only available through some > > other subscription? > > > The main thing I need to do, and soon, is get > > a test system up on TCP/IP Services so I need > > what ever are the needed kits as soon as possible. > > > Thanks, Ken > > Yes it is. I believe that the "-1" before the ".PCSI" > identifies the type of kit, with 1 being a full kit. > > Dave Ah, great, thanks Dave. I vaguely remember a discussion here in the last few months which referenced the "-1" versus "-4" or other, but I certainly didn't remember. Thanks again, Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:09:40 -0400 From: "John Smith" Subject: It would be nice to have on VMS Message-ID: <9ed90$486413a7$4c0aab67$972@TEKSAVVY.COM> http://www.sybase.com/detail?id=1056945 First time I used Sybase IQ was about 10 years ago for a 2Tb initial load data warehouse I designed for a bank. A really great product and waaay fast. That one was on Solaris. I don't know of anything comparable to this product on VMS. ....sigh.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:05:06 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: It would be nice to have on VMS Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:09:40 -0700, John Smith = wrote: > http://www.sybase.com/detail?id=3D1056945 > > First time I used Sybase IQ was about 10 years ago for a 2Tb initial l= oad > data warehouse I designed for a bank. A really great product and waaay= = > fast. > That one was on Solaris. > > I don't know of anything comparable to this product on VMS. ....sigh.= ... > > IIRC it used to also run on Tru64, but I think support fot it fell away = a = long time ago. -- = PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: FrankS Subject: Re: Subroutine(s) at end re-execute(s) if EXIT statement missing Message-ID: <960346d8-44e8-4957-8d87-d2152f6657ef@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> On Jun 26, 11:24=A0am, norm.raph...@metso.com wrote: > I got caught by this after a bad edit. > If the EXIT statement before the "subroutine(s)" > in the procedure is missing, the procedure will > re-execute the subroutine code and not "RETURN" > without complaining about a missing execution of > a GOSUB statement. There is absolutely nothing unusual about that behavior. The fact that SUB1 was previously reached by a GOSUB is irrelevant. It's your responsibility (as the programmer) to not make DCL re-enter a GOSUB'd routine. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:52:58 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: Symbol Substitution Mystery Message-ID: In article <48636eaa$0$8462$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei writes: > I suspect that DCL's symbol substitution doesn't complain when it is > asked to translate a non existant symbol within enclosing double quotes > since it still has the rest of the contents in the double quotes to return. This is definitely true. I consider it a feature, as it allows simple coding including the case that the symbol is not defined. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:05:33 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Symbol Substitution Mystery Message-ID: <48643CDD.7BA2829C@spam.comcast.net> AEF wrote: > > $ SHOW SYMBOL ZERO > ZERO == "ONE" > $ SHOW SYMBOL ONE > ONE == "TWO" > $ > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$STRING(ZERO) > ONE > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$STRING("''ZERO'") > ONE > $ > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT 'F$STRING(ZERO)' > TWO > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT 'F$STRING("''ZERO'")' > ONE > $ > > Say what? > > AEF O.k. Just "play computer", and figure out what the command line looks like at each step. For: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT 'F$STRING(ZERO)' ...the command becomes: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT ONE ..., then the output makes sense. > $ SHOW SYMBOL ONE > ONE == "TWO" D.J.D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:18:14 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Symbol Substitution Mystery Message-ID: <48644e00$0$22502$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> David J Dachtera wrote: >> $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT 'F$STRING("''ZERO'")' >> ONE > O.k. Just "play computer", and figure out what the command line looks > like at each step. Care to do that for the above command ? It converts "ZERO" to the value ONE, but why not converting from the symbol ONE to its value (two) ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:55:48 +0000 From: ChrisQ Subject: Re: Tru64 file system source code now open source Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > >> HP developed Tru64 and AdvFS in the same way that all of the former >> Digital and Compaq employees will explain their background as >> being HP employees for all of that employment time. > > > Since the death of Tru64 was announced in Sept 7th 2001 (merger > announcement), and the official HP takeover of Compaq was formalised > on May 7th 2002, HP got an already dead product, just like Alpha. The > word "developped" just doesn't fit well. > > "HP inherited Tru64" would be far more accurate. Same with Alpha. > > Did AOL develop Time Magazine ? Probably, but the announcement is one of the most thoughtfull things i've heard from hp for ages. Not so much what's been done, but in attitude. I wonder if they could be persuaded to make the whole of Tru64 open source, so we can have a decent os to run on Alpha :-), plus possible ports to other architectures ?. Tru64 was one of the most modern unices around and could be developed considerably by the open source community, in much the same way as Solaris has been recently... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:13:58 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Tru64 file system source code now open source Message-ID: <4863ea84$0$10738$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> ChrisQ wrote: > Probably, but the announcement is one of the most thoughtfull things > i've heard from hp for ages. Not so much what's been done, but in attitude. Question here: Does the DEC Unix file system still have an edge over other modern Unixes ? To put it more bluntly: Is HP releasing legacy software to open source, or does its file system still have competitive advantages ? If DEC Unix' file system still has a big edge over others Unixes, it makes this an interesting move since HP is giving away a technology that would be better than its own HP-UX. Any thoughts on whether this would mke it to mainstream Linux distributions ? Or would it remain a rarely used add-on file system without wide distribution ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:09:44 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: TTA0 port Message-ID: <4863e981$0$8492$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> You can test various speeds until you find the one that works: SET HOST/DTE TTA0: Press the Null character (CTRL-2 usually). It gets you to the DTE> prompt. SET DTE /SPEED=xxxx EXIT returns you to the connection at the new speed. Press return to see if it works. From the DTE> prompt you can change many parameters. There is help available at that level. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:15:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Subject: VMS Update going out on Tuesday Message-ID: <965a9960-5ee5-4352-9461-b1f00ecc92b7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Dear Newsgroup, I am planning on doing a VMS update next week, if you have anything you would like me to send out please send it along as soon as possible. Please send to my hp email first name dot last name @hp.com Information should be related to VMS and ok for public distribuiton. Thanks so much. Sue ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.356 ************************