INFO-VAX Sun, 10 Aug 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 434 Contents: Re: Expiration date on Files Re: SSH Re: SSH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 13:36:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "winston19842005@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: Expiration date on Files Message-ID: <7d74246f-0157-49da-bb42-6dbc8d8d7dd0@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> On Aug 7, 7:28 pm, Ken.Fairfi...@gmail.com wrote: > On Aug 7, 3:59 pm, "winston19842...@yahoo.com" > > wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2:13 pm, norm.raph...@metso.com wrote: > > > > Does a file with an Expiration date get automagically deleted when that > > > date-time occurs? > > > If I want to restore an expired file from a backup, how can I keep this > > > from happening instantaneously? > > > > Where is the discussion of the behavior of this field? > > > Gee, hasn't anyone here heard of "delete/file=expired"? > > Or am I delusional? > > Delusional I guess...I didn't see a smiley. :-) Did you think > to actually try the command you typed? Or at least check > the documentation for DELETE? Ah well... > I did try to find docs, shame that there are a lot of broken links out there. The Deathrow cluster verified that it was delete/expired - I just had my syntax wrong... I would've copy&paste, but the silly Java window, while you can copy&paste within it, if you paste outside of it you get whatever you copied from somewhere else (like it is a different clipboard). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:48:09 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: SSH Message-ID: Hi Jan-Erik, > I do not need "X" at all. Never used it and I do not > see any reason since I mostly support VMS systems > over long distance, DSL, NAT'er lines. Plain "VT" > usualy works just fine. Just FYI, If you'd like to debug your User Action Routines in-situ in your Tier3 Execution Servers, while they're running remotely, then it can be advantageous to be running some form of X. (See T3$EXAMPLES:DEMO_UARS.COB for more) I personally find the DECWindows-style debugger to be extremely useful whe running on a PC! Cheers Richard Maher PS. When is FireBug going to be available for FireFox 3 (And why doesn't someone tell you it's not available *before* you upgrade :-) "Jan-Erik Söderholm" wrote in message news:aWhnk.1629$U5.636@newsb.telia.net... > Tom Linden wrote: > > On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:11:26 -0700, Jan-Erik Söderholm > > wrote: > > > >> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > >> > >>> Steven M. Schweda wrote: > >>>> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Just setup SSH on my system. VMS 8.2, TCPIP 5.6 > >>>>> > >>>>> Using "Reflection for UNIX and VMS" > >>>>> version 14.0 on the client (Win-XP). > >>>>> > >>>>> One session is just fine, but when I open a new > >>>>> reflection Windows and try to login, both > >>>>> sessions are logged off. > >>>> > >>>> What happens if you use some other SSH client (like, say, SSH on the > >>>> VMS system or on some handy UNIX-like system)? Does the fault lie with > >>>> the VMS SSH server or with the Reflection client? > >>>> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-info > >>>> 382 South Warwick Street (+1) 651-699-9818 > >>>> Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 > >>> I enabled SSH Client also. > >>> Then made some "SSH localhost" to create new > >>> SSH sessions localy, and *that* worked at least... > >>> But as sson as as tried to create a second > >>> Relfection session, they all "died". Reflection > >>> says "". > >>> Tomorrow I'll try with the Putty emulator which I > >>> think also supports SSH. > >> > >> Just tried with PuTTY. *It* can open multiple SSH sessions > >> to my 8.2 VMS system. No problem. Reflections still > >> terminates the first session when the second is started, > >> ends up with both sesions terminated. The PyTTY sessions > >> are uneffected and are still connected and logged in. > >> > >> The SSH log files still have : > >> > >> > Thu 07 23:02:30 ERROR: FATAL ERROR: GETPTY ast_pending:1 > >> > dsa10:[sys0.syscommon.][sysexe]tcpip$ssh_sshd2.exe[38229]: > >> > FATAL: GETPTY ast_pending:1 > >> > %TCPIP-F-SSH_FATAL, non-specific fatal error condition > > > > As I said before, PuTTY with eXcursion works fine. What > > additional functionality do you require not provide by this > > combo? > > I do not need "X" at all. Never used it and I do not > see any reason since I mostly support VMS systems > over long distance, DSL, NAT'er lines. Plain "VT" > usualy works just fine. > > And Reflection is just "better". No macro-language > in PuTTY, is there ? > > And I happen to have a new licensed Reflection 14.0 > distribution. > > And it seems as PuTTY are lacking some emulation setup > options. Can't point at anything particular right now, > it's more of a "feeling". > > And no "keyboard-window" in PuTTY, nice when using > full-VT-kayboard-apps from my laptop. > > We'll see what the Attachemate support says next week. > > Jan-Erik. > > > > > >> > >> Well, I'm lost, I guess. I'll try to see if it's > >> possible to find some mail address to Attachemate... > >> > >> Jan-Erik. > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 2008 23:45:29 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: SSH Message-ID: <489e2c19$0$29500$607ed4bc@cv.net> In article , "Richard Maher" writes: >Hi Jan-Erik, > >> I do not need "X" at all. Never used it and I do not >> see any reason since I mostly support VMS systems >> over long distance, DSL, NAT'er lines. Plain "VT" >> usualy works just fine. > >Just FYI, If you'd like to debug your User Action Routines in-situ in your >Tier3 Execution Servers, while they're running remotely, then it can be >advantageous to be running some form of X. (See T3$EXAMPLES:DEMO_UARS.COB >for more) I personally find the DECWindows-style debugger to be extremely >useful whe running on a PC! A matter of personal preference. I, personally, loathe the DECwindows debugger. I prefer the character cell debugger and, of course, DELTA and XDELTA. You can do the same debugging you do with the DECwindows debugger with proper definition of DBG$INPUT and DBG$OUTPUT. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. 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