INFO-VAX Sun, 31 Aug 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 477 Contents: RE: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) OT: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:58:55 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) Message-ID: <9D02E14BC0A2AE43A5D16A4CD8EC5A593ED5EBD8BB@GVW1158EXB.americas.hpqcorp.net> > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Maher [mailto:maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com] > Sent: August 30, 2008 11:40 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) > > Hi Kerry, > > Boy are you singing from a different hymn-sheet! (Better tell Ann > MacQuaid > and Mick Keyes et al to fax some new ones through to Canada quick. You > couldn't be more off-message if you tried!) > [snip ..] No - all vendors (not just VMS) are only responding to what Cust's say they want. Way to many Cust staff in positions of making decisions are often to afraid of being called a dinosaur, so they go along with the young rookies, media and Gartner types that preach dumping their existing systems. They decide to go along and move to this [fill-in 3 letter acronym of day] new paradigm of computing as if similar styles have not been tried before and this new style will cure all their problems. Nice story that, unfortunately is all to typical these days: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Jurassic-Programmers-.aspx (and read the comments at the end - very interesting) Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-254-8911 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:34:31 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: OT: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) Message-ID: On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:58:55 -0700, Main, Kerry wrote: > No - all vendors (not just VMS) are only responding to what Cust's say > they want. Yes, but some vendors listen more carefully to their customers. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.477 ************************