INFO-VAX Mon, 01 Sep 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 479 Contents: Re: Advanced Server 7.3B & VISTA Re: Advanced Server 7.3B & VISTA RE: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) Re: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) Re: OT: SYSMAN Equiv. on AIX? Re: [RBL] Current status? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:41:26 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Advanced Server 7.3B & VISTA Message-ID: <25CdnaLunpedfibVnZ2dnUVZ_oTinZ2d@comcast.com> David J Dachtera wrote: > Bobby wrote: >> Well, I finally made progress, just in time to forget about it over >> the upcoming holiday weekend. It turns out that if the password is >> typed on the Vista side in "all caps", then connection to >> AdvancedServer is successful. Entering the password in "small caps" >> fails with a "logon_not_valid" SMB message. > > What are "small caps"? > > D.J.D. Perhaps he means "lower case"? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:52:04 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: Advanced Server 7.3B & VISTA Message-ID: On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:41:26 -0700, Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > David J Dachtera wrote: >> Bobby wrote: >>> Well, I finally made progress, just in time to forget about it over >>> the upcoming holiday weekend. It turns out that if the password is >>> typed on the Vista side in "all caps", then connection to >>> AdvancedServer is successful. Entering the password in "small caps" >>> fails with a "logon_not_valid" SMB message. >> What are "small caps"? >> D.J.D. > > Perhaps he means "lower case"? or miniscules (as opposed to majuscules) -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:55:19 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) Message-ID: <9D02E14BC0A2AE43A5D16A4CD8EC5A593ED5EBD946@GVW1158EXB.americas.hpqcorp.net> > -----Original Message----- > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca] > Sent: August 31, 2008 3:02 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) > > Main, Kerry wrote: > > > No - all vendors (not just VMS) are only responding to what Cust's > say > > they want. > > > Oh come on now. This is like supermarkets. Supermarkets don't carry > what > customers say they want. They carry what manufacturers tell them to > carry (and pay them to carry). > > HP doesn't respond to customers, they identify potential additional > profit sources and then make pretty speeches and powerpoints to try to > set new trends that will get the clueless CIOs to say "we need to do > that too". > Geeeez, you seem to have a very low opinion of Cust IT capabilities. Cust: I want a blue car. Vendor: All we sell are red trucks. Cust: Ok. I'll take a red truck. Not my idea of today's typical Sales discussion. I have a somewhat higher view of Cust IT depts. skills than you do. While CIO's might discuss going in a certain direction, they typically will not boldly go in a new direction without support from some groups within their IT groups and the business. > Carly was especially good at that, with lots of pretty speeches that > trying to convince CIOs it was necessary to adopt her new philosophy to > survice. (I use "philosophy" here because stuff like "Adaptive > enterprise" were more a question of a marketing than tangible products. Oh come on, these phrases and terms have been going on since the first Marketing campaign of the first computer series. Remember these? - "The Network is the Computer" (Sun) - "Real Time Enterprise" (Gartner) - "Autonomic Computing" (project eLiza - IBM) http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/autonomic (see retirement notices) - "IT as a Utility" (don't know source, but that was internal IT buzz phrase even back in the Digital days) Btw, the concept of the "Adaptive Enterprise" was also The subject of a book from the Meta Group: http://www.intel.com/intelpress/sum_book2.htm http://www.intel.com/intelpress/toc-book2.pdf (one does not have to agree with everything in this book, but it does have good points) And to HP's credit, the AE was never position as a set of products that you buy off the shelf, but rather an approach that mixed services and products (and it did not have to be HP products, but of course Sales preferred HP products) to develop a 2-3 project roadmap to upgrade your companies IT to help it support the companies business's to be more competitive. Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-254-8911 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Phillips Subject: Re: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) Message-ID: On Sep 1, 9:55=A0am, "Main, Kerry" wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spam...@vaxination.ca] > > Sent: August 31, 2008 3:02 PM > > To: Info-...@Mvb.Saic.Com > > Subject: Re: Loose Cannon-dian (was: Re: DEFCON 16 and Hacking OpenVMS) > > > Main, Kerry wrote: > > > > No - all vendors (not just VMS) are only responding to what Cust's > > say > > > they want. > > > Oh come on now. This is like supermarkets. Supermarkets don't carry > > what > > customers say they want. They carry what manufacturers tell them to > > carry (and pay them to carry). > > > HP doesn't respond to customers, they identify potential additional > > profit sources and then make pretty speeches and powerpoints to try to > > set new trends that will get the clueless CIOs to say "we need to do > > that too". > > Geeeez, you seem to have a very low opinion of Cust IT capabilities. > > Cust: I want a blue car. > Vendor: All we sell are red trucks. > Cust: Ok. I'll take a red truck. > > Not my idea of today's typical Sales discussion. I have a somewhat higher > view of Cust IT depts. skills than you do. > > While CIO's might discuss going in a certain direction, they typically > will not boldly go in a new direction without support from some groups > within their IT groups and the business. > > > Carly was especially good at that, with lots of pretty speeches that > > trying to convince CIOs it was necessary to adopt her new philosophy to > > survice. (I use "philosophy" here because =A0stuff like "Adaptive > > enterprise" were more a question of a marketing than tangible products. > > Oh come on, these phrases and terms have been going on since the first > Marketing campaign of the first computer series. > > Remember these? > - "The Network is the Computer" (Sun) > > - "Real Time Enterprise" (Gartner) > > - "Autonomic Computing" (project eLiza - IBM)http://www.ibm.com/developer= works/autonomic(see retirement notices) > > - "IT as a Utility" (don't know source, but that was internal IT buzz > phrase even back in the Digital days) > > Btw, the concept of the "Adaptive Enterprise" was also The subject of a > book from the Meta Group:http://www.intel.com/intelpress/sum_book2.htmhtt= p://www.intel.com/intelpress/toc-book2.pdf > (one does not have to agree with everything in this book, but it does > have good points) > > And to HP's credit, the AE was never position as a set of products that > you buy off the shelf, but rather an approach that mixed services > and products (and it did not have to be HP products, but of course > Sales preferred HP products) to develop a 2-3 project roadmap to upgrade > your companies IT to help it support the companies business's to be > more competitive. > > Regards > > Kerry Main > Senior Consultant > HP Services Canada > Voice: 613-254-8911 > Fax: 613-591-4477 > kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom > (remove the DOT's and AT) > > OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. The most successful vendors listen to what the marketplace is saying: what people are buying and what people might want to buy based upon technical and social trends. Existing customers are either happy, not happy or a combination thereof. Service and support are most important to them. Vendor- customer lines of communication develop and solidify over time. If a need arises that is outside of the established lines of communication, or can't be met by the current primary vendor, the customer will find something that works and use it. Often, the primary vendor doesn't even know they've done this until the tide has changed and it's too late. Remember why PDP was named PDP? The most successful vendors attract new customers and have a marketing strategy to do so. Some vendors don't care to grow certain product lines because they've set their sights in a different direction. Reality sometimes sucks, but reality doesn't really care what anyone thinks about it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:05:15 -0700 (PDT) From: blowhard27 Subject: Re: OT: SYSMAN Equiv. on AIX? Message-ID: <66c928f2-e947-4a1f-a019-a11d07fda988@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> On Sep 1, 3:32 am, David J Dachtera wrote: > Bob Koehler wrote: > > > From: David J Dachtera > > > > Is anyone aware of a SYSMAN-like utility for AIX? I need to be able to > > > execute the same command on multiple LPARs, HACMP not withstanding. > > > Someone with a similar problem on HP-UX used rsync. I think they > > had cron jobs to look for scripts. > > Rsync was suggested as an approach to the "central repository" question. > Has its issues, but also has considerable merit from what I've ssen so > far. > > Not sure how Rsync would help execute the same command on every LPAR in > a group. > > D.J.D. Not sure what an LPAR group is but I've used the C3 tools to manage multiple nodes in an NIS domain. Uses ssh or rsh so needs proper remote access setup. Like hosts.equiv or .rhosts or netgroups. Have a look at: http://www.csm.ornl.gov/torc/C3/C3documentation.shtml Regards, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:40:25 GMT From: "John E. Malmberg" Subject: Re: [RBL] Current status? Message-ID: David J Dachtera wrote: > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: >> In article <48b43770@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter >> 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) writes: >> >>> What is the current status of RBLs? >>> Which one do you use? >> I've been using Spamhaus as my only RBL for a while now. Seems to work >> fine. I get a few thousand SMTP connection attempts per day. Perhaps 5 >> spam emails per day get through. Although something like this is >> difficult to detect, I don't think false positives are a problem. > > Actually, false positives are a *BIG* problem! Fortunately, on the VMS > systems we just de-implemented, all of the important pages were sent by > HTTP using WGET (Thanx, SMS, for a very useful solution!) > > *ALL* of the AIX pages are sent via SMTP, and our paging provider uses > spamhaus, also. SO, when we get a lone PC inside the firewall that gets > infected due to unsafe surfing and starts blasting spam all over he > known universe, our physician and other caregivers as well as our > technical people stop getting important message by pager. > > So yes, false positives are all too common and immediately become a > *HUGE* problem! I posted at least a year ago that some of the dsbl.org testers had discovered a virus - spambot infection that was not detectable by the commercial virus scanners at the time. The only way to detect this infection is to monitor attempts to send e-mail directly through a firewall instead of through the designated SMTP gateway. Of course in some areas of this country, having a system infected with a virus where an unknown bot-master was on in control, anyone who's personal data could have been accessed needs to be notified. And these days, it must be assumed that if a PC was infected with a virus, the purpose was to inject a remote control program for various criminal activities. http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=636 A corporate firewall should be detecting and setting off security alarms when a non-mail server attempts to make a direct SMTP connection through it. Another techique to use is a Samba Server configured to look like a vulnerable PC to see what systems attempt to infect it. And Corporate/Educational network owners should consider being suspicious of any outgoing e-mail with reply-to addresses for any of the free/demo e-mailers: hotmail.com, live.com, live.ca, live.co.uk, live.* aol.com, games.com, aim.com, aol.* voila.fr, myway.com, gazeta.pl yahoo.com, rocketmail.com, ymail.com, yahoo.* gmail.com, googlemail.com The only e-mails that I have seen outside of mailing list traffic with explicit reply-to addresses of the above have been Nigerian 419 scam variants where it appears that the scammer has somehow aquired the e-mail credentials of a legitimate user on the network, and is using remote authenticated access. -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.479 ************************