INFO-VAX Sat, 11 Oct 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 550 Contents: Re: Group buy! (50 RX2600s on eBay) Re: Group buy! (50 RX2600s on eBay) Re: Group buy! (50 RX2600s on eBay) Re: how to configure infoserver functionality in vms 8.3 Re: how to configure infoserver functionality in vms 8.3 Re: LS1-11 Graphics Boards Re: New LaserJet fun (or upward compatibility? What is that?) Re: ODS5 documentation complaints -- Justified or not? You decide. Re: Starting a CDE session over SSH? Re: Starting a CDE session over SSH? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: urbancamo Subject: Re: Group buy! (50 RX2600s on eBay) Message-ID: > > Now everything is working fine but the darn thing is so loud I can't > > bear to have it in the study, but that's the only place I have the > > network available. As I understand it there was no office-friendly kit > > for this system. Does anyone have any tips on making it quieter? > > How big is it? =A0How much power does it use? =A0How loud is it (compared= to > other VAX or ALPHA systems)? The Hoff has a very good summary of the Itanium options for OpenVMS available at: http://hoffmanlabs.org/openvms/hwi64.shtml. I have a ZX6000 which is functionality equivalent to the RX2600 Office Friendly version (single, non-redundant power supply) except that it doesn't have the management processor card. The noise is equivalent to my home built linux server with dual fans blowing across the cards. Not quiet, but not a 747 taking off either. If you have dual power supplies I would suggest try pulling one and see if that helps (not that I'm an expert of course!) Regarding power: with dual 1.4GHz Itanium processors, three hard drives installed and an ATI 7500 PCI graphics card the box runs at 370 watts. Compared to my Core2 1.66Gz 3 Hard drive linux server this is a lot of juice - the linux server runs at 100 watts. There is a summary of the power consumption of various kit on my blog: http://blog.wickensonli= ne.co.uk. Hope this helps. Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:40:10 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: Group buy! (50 RX2600s on eBay) Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:32:07 -0700, Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: > I have several of them, they need a lot of memory. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:25:01 -0500 From: "Craig A. Berry" Subject: Re: Group buy! (50 RX2600s on eBay) Message-ID: <0uednZBE5NbTWG3VnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@speakeasy.net> Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: > In article , "Craig A. > Berry" writes: >>There are a lot of challenges to getting >>these things working compared to the alphas I've been dealing with as a >>hobbyist for some years. > > > Maybe someone could set up a step-by-step guide on the web. There is Hoff's guide, as urbancamo pointed out, and there is lots of HP documentation. >>First of all you have to have the right serial cable(s) and something to >>connect them to. > I have enough old serial cables of all sorts and real terminals lying > around. Nice to know that I'll need them when I get an Itanium system! I believe you can do a graphics console with models later than the rx2600 and with OpenVMS v8.3-1H1, but the rx2600 is what's appearing now at hobbyist prices. >>Next challenge is obtaining OpenVMS I64 media. There are still no >>official hobbyist media available > > > But presumably hobbyist LICENSES are available and it's always been OK > to borrow media for a hobbyist installation. Yes, if you can find someone to borrow from, but there are additional difficulties with creating bootable media as has been discussed here a number of times. People who already have a deep investment in VMS won't have any great difficulty getting over the hurdles involved, or will persist until they get things working. For some, getting it set up may even be what's interesting. But for someone without relevant hardware experience who just wants to get to the command prompt and start porting software, the rx2600 does not provide a very friendly introduction. >>Now everything is working fine but the darn thing is so loud I can't >>bear to have it in the study, but that's the only place I have the >>network available. As I understand it there was no office-friendly kit >>for this system. Does anyone have any tips on making it quieter? > > > How big is it? How much power does it use? How loud is it (compared to > other VAX or ALPHA systems)? It's a 2U rackmount system, but a long one -- it would need a 30-inch deep rack. Some of this info is available in the QuickSpecs: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11716_div/11716_div.html I find it dramatically louder than my XP1000. It's probably not that loud compared to other modern servers, particularly rackable ones that are expected to be packed in together and need extremely heavy-duty fans to keep cool, but it's still a lot to have sitting right next to you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:25:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Naveen Subject: Re: how to configure infoserver functionality in vms 8.3 Message-ID: <933862c8-8509-4e3d-b152-cbd18faec00b@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com> Thanx Mr. Viems, Thanks a lot. I have 4 NIC cards, two of them are on mother-board (EIA0 and EWA0) and two are on PCI slots (EWB0, and EWC0) . Here we are using EWB0 and EWC0. EWC0 is configrued for TCPIP communication and EWB0 is configured for LAT/DECNET etc. My system output is attached with this mail. My system node name is BSHFMC, decnet address is 27.979 and IP address is 192.168.68.51. My default gateway is configured on EWC0 with IP address 192.168.68.56 so, please help me to configure my infoserver services on my host, which is running on vms 8.3 >sh net Product: DECNET Node: BSHFMC Address(es): 27.979 Product: TCP/IP Node: bhsfmc.bsl Address(es): 192.168.68.51 >mc lancp show config /user LAN Configuration: Parent or Device PrefCPU Medium/User Version Link Speed Duplex Auto BufSize MAC Address Type ------ ------- ----------- ------- ---- ----- ------ ---- ------- ---------------- ------------ ----------- EIA0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Down - - Yes 1500 00-02-A5-20-55-B2 UTP i82559 EIA4 FE DECnet-V 1497 EWA0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Down - - Yes 1500 00-16-35-3E-EC-AA UTP BCM5703 EWA4 FE DECnet-V 1497 EWB0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Up 100 Full Yes 1500 AA-00-04-00-D3-6F UTP BCM5703 =20 00-1F-29-32-66-61 (default) EWB4 FE DECnet-V 1497 EWB5 60-03 DNA Routing 1498 EWB17 80-41 LAST 1500 EWC0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Down - - Yes 1500 00-1F-29-32-66-42 UTP BCM5703 EWC4 FE DECnet-V 1497 >mc ncp sh know nodes Known Node Volatile Summary as of 11-OCT-2008 10:48:51 Executor node =3D 27.979 (BSHFMC) State =3D on Identification =3D DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS > mc ncp show node bshfmc char Node Volatile Characteristics as of 11-OCT-2008 10:51:26 Executor node =3D 27.979 (BSHFMC) Identification =3D DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS Management version =3D V4.0.0 Incoming timer =3D 0 Outgoing timer NSP version =3D V4.1.0 Maximum links =3D 0 Delay factor =3D 0 Delay weight =3D 0 Inactivity timer =3D 0 Retransmit factor =3D 0 Routing version =3D V2.0.0 Type =3D nonrouting IV Routing timer =3D 0 Subaddresses =3D 0 Broadcast routing timer =3D 0 Maximum address =3D 0 Maximum circuits =3D 0 Maximum cost =3D 0 Maximum hops =3D 0 Maximum visits =3D 0 Maximum area =3D 0 Max broadcast nonrouters =3D 0 Max broadcast routers =3D 0 Maximum path splits =3D 0 Area maximum cost =3D 0 Area maximum hops =3D 0 Maximum buffers =3D 0 Segment buffer size =3D 0 Buffer size =3D 0 Pipeline quota =3D 0 Alias maximum links =3D 0 Path split policy =3D Normal Maximum Declared Objects =3D 0 DNS interface =3D Enabled >mc ncp show circuit e* char Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of Circuit =3D EIA-0 State =3D on Service =3D disabled Circuit =3D EWA-0 State =3D on Service =3D disabled Circuit =3D EWA-1 State =3D on Service =3D disable Circuit =3D EWA-2 State =3D on Service =3D disabled >mc latcp sh link Link Name Device Name State -------------- ----------------- -------- LAT$LINK _EWB7: ON On Oct 9, 11:29=A0pm, H Vlems wrote: > On 9 okt, 20:05, H Vlems wrote: > > > > > > > On 9 okt, 12:28, Naveen wrote: > > > > =A0I have 14 VXT terminals (vxt 2000+) which > > > boots from 2 infoservers(infoserver sw1000). Each infoserver has hard= - > > > disk (DK3:) which contains booting software for these vxts. We have > > > five Host systems which were on vms 7.1 Now we have upgraded our > > > hardware and OS. > > > ( DS-25 )which is operating with VMS 8.3 .My host systems are not > > > in a cluster. We want to remove infoservers . Booting software of VXT= s > > > are of version > > > 2.1 which is on hard-disk (DK3:) of infoservers. Each infoserver has > > > one hard-disk (device name is DK3:) > > > Some X-session applications are running of these remote Vxts. > > > > So please help us to boot these vxts from our host systems > > > > Thanx in advance. > > > Ought to be possible, I have a VXT 2000+ and no Infoserver at all and > > it seems to boot quite well... > > As it happens, I run AXP/VMS V8.3 and DECnet phase IV (aka classic > > DECnet). > > The VXT system uses MOP to boot and even though MOP is not DECnet, the > > boot characteristics are maintained in the DECnet database. > > Indium is the DECnet nodename of the VXT 2000+: > > > NCP>sho node indium char > > > Node Volatile Characteristics as of =A09-OCT-2008 19:54:42 > > > Remote node =3D =A0 1.12 (INDIUM) > > > Service circuit =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D EWA-0 > > Hardware address =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D 08-00-2B-93-C2-F2 > > Load file =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D VXT$LIBRARY:VXT.SYS > > > VXT$LIBRARY is a logical name of course and points to a directory that > > contains this: > > > $ dir vxt$library > > > Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[VXT$LIBRARY] > > > VXT$LAUNCH.EXE;1 =A0 =A0VXT$SERVER.COM;1 =A0 =A0VXT$WSA.EXE;1 =A0 =A0 = =A0 VXT.SYS; > > 1 > > VXT021_RELEASE_NOTES.PS;1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 VXTCONFIG.XRM;1 = =A0 =A0 VXTEX.SYS; > > 1 > > > Total of 7 files. > > $ > > > The $64,000 question is: where did those files come from and the > > answer is that I really can't remember :-( > > Hans > > PS > If you use DECnet phase IV, make sure that the attribute "Service" is > enabled for the DECnet circuit: > $ mc ncp sho know circ > > Known Circuit Volatile Summary as of =A09-OCT-2008 20:29:14 > > =A0 =A0Circuit =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0State =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 Loopback =A0 =A0 Adjacent > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Name =A0 =A0 =A0Routing Node > > =A0 EWA-0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 on > $ mc ncp sho circ ewa-0 char > > Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of =A09-OCT-2008 20:29:18 > > Circuit =3D EWA-0 > > State =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D on > Service =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D enabled > Designated router =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D =A01.9 (OSMIUM) > Cost =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D 4 > Maximum routers allowed =A0=3D 33 > Router priority =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D 64 > Hello timer =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D 15 > Type =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D Ethernet > > $- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:50:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Naveen Subject: Re: how to configure infoserver functionality in vms 8.3 Message-ID: <10037d76-6af4-4355-9cd8-7ba502c51462@r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com> On Oct 9, 11:05=A0pm, H Vlems wrote: > On 9 okt, 12:28, Naveen wrote: > > > =A0I have 14 VXT terminals (vxt 2000+) which > > boots from 2 infoservers(infoserver sw1000). Each infoserver has hard- > > disk (DK3:) which contains booting software for these vxts. We have > > five Host systems which were on vms 7.1 Now we have upgraded our > > hardware and OS. > > ( DS-25 )which is operating with VMS 8.3 .My host systems are not > > in a cluster. We want to remove infoservers . Booting software of VXTs > > are of version > > 2.1 which is on hard-disk (DK3:) of infoservers. Each infoserver has > > one hard-disk (device name is DK3:) > > Some X-session applications are running of these remote Vxts. > > > So please help us to boot these vxts from our host systems > > > Thanx in advance. > > Ought to be possible, I have a VXT 2000+ and no Infoserver at all and > it seems to boot quite well... > As it happens, I run AXP/VMS V8.3 and DECnet phase IV (aka classic > DECnet). > The VXT system uses MOP to boot and even though MOP is not DECnet, the > boot characteristics are maintained in the DECnet database. > Indium is the DECnet nodename of the VXT 2000+: > > NCP>sho node indium char > > Node Volatile Characteristics as of =A09-OCT-2008 19:54:42 > > Remote node =3D =A0 1.12 (INDIUM) > > Service circuit =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D EWA-0 > Hardware address =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D 08-00-2B-93-C2-F2 > Load file =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D VXT$LIBRARY:VXT.SYS > > VXT$LIBRARY is a logical name of course and points to a directory that > contains this: > > $ dir vxt$library > > Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[VXT$LIBRARY] > > VXT$LAUNCH.EXE;1 =A0 =A0VXT$SERVER.COM;1 =A0 =A0VXT$WSA.EXE;1 =A0 =A0 =A0= VXT.SYS; > 1 > VXT021_RELEASE_NOTES.PS;1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 VXTCONFIG.XRM;1 =A0= =A0 VXTEX.SYS; > 1 > > Total of 7 files. > $ > > The $64,000 question is: where did those files come from and the > answer is that I really can't remember :-( > Hans Thanx Mr. Viems, Thanks a lot. I have 4 NIC cards, two of them are on mother-board (EIA0 and EWA0) and two are on PCI slots (EWB0, and EWC0) . Here we are using EWB0 and EWC0. EWC0 is configrued for TCPIP communication and EWB0 is configured for LAT/DECNET etc. My system output is attached with this mail. My system node name is BSHFMC, decnet address is 27.979 and IP address is 192.168.68.51. My default gateway is configured on EWC0 with IP address 192.168.68.56 so, please help me to configure my infoserver services on my host, which is running on vms 8.3 >sh net Product: DECNET Node: BSHFMC Address(es): 27.979 Product: TCP/IP Node: bhsfmc.bsl Address(es): 192.168.68.51 >mc ncl show csma-cd station * all here in my output Name csma-cd-2 communication port EWB hardware address 00-1F-29-32-55-EB state ON mac adress AA-00-04-00-D3-6F receive mode all multicast >mc lancp show config /user LAN Configuration: Parent or Device PrefCPU Medium/User Version Link Speed Duplex Auto BufSize MAC Address Type ------ ------- ----------- ------- ---- ----- ------ ---- ------- ---------------- ------------ ----------- EIA0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Down - - Yes 1500 00-02-A5-20-55-B2 UTP i82559 EIA4 FE DECnet-V 1497 EWA0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Down - - Yes 1500 00-16-35-3E-EC-AA UTP BCM5703 EWA4 FE DECnet-V 1497 EWB0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Up 100 Full Yes 1500 AA-00-04-00-D3-6F UTP BCM5703 00-1F-29-32-66-61 (default) EWB4 FE DECnet-V 1497 EWB5 60-03 DNA Routing 1498 EWB17 80-41 LAST 1500 EWC0 0 Ethernet (nopriv) Down - - Yes 1500 00-1F-29-32-66-42 UTP BCM5703 EWC4 FE DECnet-V 1497 >mc ncp sh know nodes Known Node Volatile Summary as of 11-OCT-2008 10:48:51 Executor node =3D 27.979 (BSHFMC) State =3D on Identification =3D DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS > mc ncp show node bshfmc char Node Volatile Characteristics as of 11-OCT-2008 10:51:26 Executor node =3D 27.979 (BSHFMC) Identification =3D DECnet-OSI for OpenVMS Management version =3D V4.0.0 Incoming timer =3D 0 Outgoing timer NSP version =3D V4.1.0 Maximum links =3D 0 Delay factor =3D 0 Delay weight =3D 0 Inactivity timer =3D 0 Retransmit factor =3D 0 Routing version =3D V2.0.0 Type =3D nonrouting IV Routing timer =3D 0 Subaddresses =3D 0 Broadcast routing timer =3D 0 Maximum address =3D 0 Maximum circuits =3D 0 Maximum cost =3D 0 Maximum hops =3D 0 Maximum visits =3D 0 Maximum area =3D 0 Max broadcast nonrouters =3D 0 Max broadcast routers =3D 0 Maximum path splits =3D 0 Area maximum cost =3D 0 Area maximum hops =3D 0 Maximum buffers =3D 0 Segment buffer size =3D 0 Buffer size =3D 0 Pipeline quota =3D 0 Alias maximum links =3D 0 Path split policy =3D Normal Maximum Declared Objects =3D 0 DNS interface =3D Enabled >mc ncp show circuit e* char Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of Circuit =3D EIA-0 State =3D on Service =3D disabled Circuit =3D EWA-0 State =3D on Service =3D disabled Circuit =3D EWA-1 State =3D on Service =3D disable Circuit =3D EWA-2 State =3D on Service =3D disabled >mc ncp sh known circ known circuit volatile summary at 11-oct-2008 10:49:51 No information in database >mc latcp sh link Link Name Device Name State -------------- ----------------- -------- LAT$LINK _EWB7: ON ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:37:53 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: LS1-11 Graphics Boards Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:49:13 -0700, JohnPSDS wrote: > We have a government client who wants to clone their MicroVaxII. Slots > 7 & 8 have LS1-11 graphics boards made by Ramtek. Anybody know of > these boards? Do (4) spares still exist in the world? Inquiring minds > want to know. > > John Hession > Account Manager > Puget Sound Data Systems > 19501 144th Ave, N.E. #D-100 > Woodinville, WA 98072 > john@PSDS.com > tel: 425-488-0710 > fax: 425-488-6414 > toll-free: 1-866-857-0710 > AOL IM: johnPSDS > > > > John, you might also post the part number if you have it. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:43:18 -0400 From: "William Webb" Subject: Re: New LaserJet fun (or upward compatibility? What is that?) Message-ID: <8660a3a10810110843i5545f4e3n44e0043d7361f658@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Rich Jordan wrote: > On Oct 9, 8:47 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" > wrote: >> William Webb wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Rich Jordan wrote: >> >> Just a note if any of you are still spec'ing LaserJet printers for use >> >> on VMS systems. I'm not aware of any available PCL6 support info or >> >> libraries on VMS (PCL5 either for that matter, but its easy enough to >> >> roll your own with that). >> >> >> We've used PCL (3, then 5) as our primary 'print forms' language for >> >> 16 years. HP hasn't always made that easy as their backward >> >> compatibility has been less than stellar, and their penchant for >> >> producing badly crippled firmware in their low end printers has also >> >> not helped. Soft fonts were a particular problem over the years as >> >> certain low end printers refused to load them; these limitations were >> >> often not documented; we found out 'in use'. >> >> >> The newest printer we've tried to use is the P2015-N. There is one, >> >> and only one note, indicating a font limitation: 45 scalable fonts >> >> (PCL6), 35 scalable fonts (PS), 11 Scalable fonts plus 11 lineprint >> >> fonts (PCL5e). >> >> >> None of the scalable fonts available to PCL5e have proportional >> >> spacing. This printer has been crippled back to a fixed pitch dumb >> >> printer for anyone not running a PCL6 driver. It is NOT their bottom >> >> line stuff; its in the mid-range. And not suitable to our forms >> >> printing needs. >> >> >> At the same time, the HP developer website that was supposed to >> >> provide links to the various PCL5/PCL6 specs and docs has apparently >> >> been lobotomized. All my searches ended up going to dead pages or to >> >> the hp.com pages with the PCL5 docs; nothing on PCL6. If anyone knows >> >> where the PCL6 developer or spec docs are I'd appreciate a heads-up. >> >> In the meantime these printers are sidelined while we locate some real >> >> LaserJets that haven't been crippled into PC toys. >> >> > I have a PCL 5 manual on my desk. >> > Good for looking stuff up when writing device control library modules. >> >> > Most HP printers will respond positively to PCL 5 commands, although >> > I've got to admit that PCL is even more positional than BACKUP. >> >> > WWWebb >> >> I've been using a LaserJet 4000 with JetDirect card for a good many >> years now. I print from Windows, VMS, Solaris, and Linux. It's rock >> solid and has done everything I need it to do. > > Midgrade printers like the 4000 series were always safe bets. I don't > know any that have run as long or reliably as the tank-like III/IIID > printers (the 4s were the first ones to start cheaping down on the > physical construction, though the 4si lasted many years at any of our > customers that had one) but they were still pretty good. Where we > first ran into problems was the low end printers after the 6 series; > the 1100/2100 printers had crippled PCL interpreters, but you could > not find that out from any pre-sales literature. > > Later you need to watch out for printers that don't state 'PCL5' or > 'PCL5e' support, which were the ones that used the host-based > interpreter and were therefore useless without an HP driver. However > the firmware crippling seemed to stay down in the personal desktop end > of the product line. Now you need to make sure about PCL5/5e _and_ > font availability. Who knows what gotchas HP will be adding in the > future. This is not a good thing. If you need to replace your 4000, > be very careful what you settle on. > Back when I contracted at USPS, although I was in a system admin role, we also did tech support that first or second tier couldn't solve, and we did a slew of printer stuff. I have stashed someplace, a now-vanished page from the HP website which provided instructions on how to print a config sheet and a test page from every LaserJet they'd manufactured at that point in time. It was a marvelous reference- particularly when you were working with "non-technical" users. Someone had the nerve to write in there that the front panel menu structures were consistent across the LaserJet line. We all got a good laugh out of that one. WWWebb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:28:06 -0500 From: "Craig A. Berry" Subject: Re: ODS5 documentation complaints -- Justified or not? You decide. Message-ID: <47ednayVxcBmKm3VnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@speakeasy.net> SMS wrote: > > You seem to be reading the section related to VMS V7.2, not the > section > related to later versions, about which it says this: > > OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha systems and ODS--5 disks includes > enhanced > support for the use of file names, and subdirectory and root > subdirectory names. It supports all possible 8-bit characters, > excluding only the following two characters: ? * Oops, I didn't read to the end of the section. Maybe they should put the 7.3-1 and later bit first and 7.2 differences at the end. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:43:35 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: Starting a CDE session over SSH? Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:21:57 -0700, urbancamo wrote: > mcr cde$system_defaults:[bin]dtsession That is pretty neat! I got following, but it worked anyway. I was ssh connected via PuTTY from XP laptop running eXcursion. X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface user-medium-r-normal-m*- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:19:21 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Starting a CDE session over SSH? Message-ID: <48f0d358$0$1564$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Tom Linden wrote: > X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface > user-medium-r-normal-m*- > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" to type FontStruct Normally, you can configure your VMS system to have a font server and tell the X-terminal software to use that system for fonts. This way, the X-terminal will find the fonts that VMS applications expect to be present. In a SSH environment, it might be difficult to achieve since the connection from VMS back to the X-terminal is SSH, and when the terminal wishes to connect to the VMS server to obtain fonts, it won't go through SSH. (the roles are reversed, for fonts, the X-terminal is a client, whereas for X, the X-terminal is the server :-) The other way to solve this is to move the needed fonts from VMS to the X-terminal and update its own font directory so that the fonts needed by VMS apps will be found on the X-terminal (no need for font server). Or simply remap the requested fonts to a font already on the X-terminal (with the font alias file). ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.550 ************************