INFO-VAX Tue, 21 Oct 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 569 Contents: Re: AlphaServer 1000a screen blanks after self test Re: AlphaServer 1000a screen blanks after self test Re: Disabling the F6 interrupt function Re: DS10 front access storage cage (3X-BA10B-AA) Re: OpenVMS Book Wins award Re: OpenVMS Book Wins award Re: SMGRTL patch available on ITRC ftp site Re: Using Fortran to generate graphics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:11:54 +0200 From: Marc Schlensog Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1000a screen blanks after self test Message-ID: <20081021091154.35e5c5c8@web.de> On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:48:58 -0700 (PDT) jacquesal wrote: > On Oct 20, 9:09=C2=A0pm, jacquesal > wrote: > > I'm going to find out about disabling the fan tests. All fans appear > > to function well. Will report back! :-) >=20 > I disabled J52 (temperature shutdown) and put the daughtercard boot > jumper in fail-safe mode. The OCP lit up straight away and I heard > 1-3-3 (bad RAM), before the self tests stalled! I looked at the RAM > and noticed that one SIMM was poorly inserted (I had pulled it to see > the model number) so I turned the machine off and reseated the SIMM. I > have had no luck getting the system to power on correctly again (and > I've tried six or seven times). I've disabled the fan checks and have > played around with the boot mode jumpers on the CPU daughtercard. The > fans turn on, but no OCP and no console. Frustrating! >=20 > - Alex Did you unplug everything, that's not necessary for a basic startup (i.e. controller cards, video card, all the memory except for one bank, etc pp) and see if it comes up with output on serial? In case of defective memory, you might have to swap your memory kits through until you find one that works. Troubleshooting with a fully equipped box is always a bit painful :) Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:32:50 -0700 (PDT) From: johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1000a screen blanks after self test Message-ID: <8cfd530b-cd90-4781-bcbf-efe38ba286d5@v72g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> On Oct 21, 2:48 am, jacquesal wrote: > On Oct 20, 9:09 pm, jacquesal > wrote: > > > I'm going to find out about disabling the fan tests. All fans appear > > to function well. Will report back! :-) > > I disabled J52 (temperature shutdown) and put the daughtercard boot > jumper in fail-safe mode. The OCP lit up straight away and I heard > 1-3-3 (bad RAM), before the self tests stalled! I looked at the RAM > and noticed that one SIMM was poorly inserted (I had pulled it to see > the model number) so I turned the machine off and reseated the SIMM. I > have had no luck getting the system to power on correctly again (and > I've tried six or seven times). I've disabled the fan checks and have > played around with the boot mode jumpers on the CPU daughtercard. The > fans turn on, but no OCP and no console. Frustrating! > > - Alex Frustrating indeed! Thanks for all the gory detail; we can now be quite confident that you have an EV5/21164 box, which may make the motherboard references in the EV4/21064 docs irrelevant. Fortunately, one single beep *is* in Table 4-3 of the 600A Owners Guide (page 4-7) at http://h18000.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/download/ek-al655-ui-a01.pdf (apologies for formatting): "Beep code/Meaning/Action 1 at system startup/System start-up is successful/None" Unfortunately your system startup isn't 100% successful yet. You say you "put the daughtercard boot jumper in fail-safe mode"and "played around a bit" but don't say explicitly whether you've put the Fail Safe Loader jumper back to its "normal operation" position. You need to do that for normal operation, otherwise afaik you stay in "FSL mode" rather than normal mode. You actually might want to use FSL mode to check you have a valid set of firmware (ie update your firmware). There are brief and insufficient details starting on page 4-26 of the manual above. More extensive details appear to be on Hoff's website at http://64.223.189.234/node/673 which also includes a link to a collection of AlphaServer manuals at vt100.net - in particular, there is a "AlphaServer 1000/1000A Model 5/ xxx Owner's Guide Supplement" where Chapter 1 at least looks relevant and Chapter 2 would be relevant if we could get you working consistently to the ">>>" prompt... the rest of that manual is AlphaBIOS stuff, currently irrelevant. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:00:05 -0700 (PDT) From: tadamsmar Subject: Re: Disabling the F6 interrupt function Message-ID: <6e8b50bf-00b8-4085-aaf6-0c1d382b39d0@u65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On Oct 17, 3:54=A0pm, tadamsmar wrote: > On Oct 16, 9:13=A0am, tadamsmar wrote: > > > > > > > On Oct 16, 8:54=A0am, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob > > > Koehler) wrote: > > > In article , tadamsmar writes: > > > > > I just found out that a system I maintain is hosed if someone hits > > > > F6. =A0It halts the interface, stops ASTs from running, stops freei= ng > > > > locks, halts the system and sets off the watchdog timer. > > > > > I am trying to figure out how to fix the problem. =A0 The interface= uses > > > > SMG. > > > > > I would like to leave line editing functions on if possible, when t= he > > > > user is entering line mode commands. > > > > > This interface traps control Y and C but F6 gets by this. =A0 I let > > > > control Y and C exit the system in situations where a unified > > > > transaction is not in progress. > > > > =A0 What the program gets from F6 probably starts with an escape > > > =A0 character. =A0I'd look into what SMG is doing with this. > > > I searched the archives here on "F6 Interrupt" and did not see a > > mention of an SMG solution deals only with F6 and has not side- > > effects, and I don't know of one. The only solutions I have found have > > side effects: (1) turn off line editing (2) SET NOCONTROL-Y. > > > It is possible to turn line editing on and off with SMG commands or > > system services. =A0I am looking at turning it off at the critical > > times, but of course this solution requires a bit of application > > analysis.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Turns out that F6 is being coverted to a CTRL/C. =A0But trapping CTRL/C > with SMG$SET_OUT_OF_BAND_ASTS does not trap F6 when it is configured > to trap CTRL/C. > > However, you can trap F6 with SYS$QIOW as illustrated > here with a handy example program CTRLC.FOR: > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/6443/6443pro_049.html > > This appears to be promising. =A0I tested the example program and it > does trap F6 when line editing is enabled for the terminal.- Hide quoted = text - > > - Show quoted text - This solution is useful but not 100% reliable. Only one AST is established and it has to run to re-establish another. If you jam the F6 key down then I find that the F6 key eventually wins the race with the re-establishment of the AST and causes an interrupt. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:46:51 +0200 From: The Spriteman Subject: Re: DS10 front access storage cage (3X-BA10B-AA) Message-ID: <48fe077c$0$189$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: > In article <57SdnUeNlY1pkWTVnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@comcast.com>, "Richard B. > Gilbert" writes: > >> > Just today, I saw a sign advertising a 1-TB USB drive for EUR 99.95. >> >> Yes, but does it work with VAX/Alpha/Itanic VMS? > > Since it's USB, my guess is at most Itanium, but since that is > "industry-standard" OF COURSE it will work. :-| in my case it is not the question if it works but how reliable is the hardware and can be sure can see my data when ever i want (perhaps in 10 years) that's why i want to transfer it to VMS systems, becouse i know it is reliable (and you can't always say that about "customer" electronics!!!) but with the differance in price i think i am cheaper off buying 3 * 1 TB disks, and connect them to 3 PC's with Charon VAX on it and make it a nice cluster. (or some thinge like that) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:59:33 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: OpenVMS Book Wins award Message-ID: <9e790c3e-fa44-486f-947b-99f25613b3c7@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> On 20 Oct, 18:36, yyyc186 wrote: > The Minimum You Need to Know About Service Orieted Architecture by > Roland Hughes > > Award-Winner in the Business: Technology/Computers/Internet category > of the National Best Books 2008 Awards, sponsored by USA Book News > > You can find this book in Island Computer's Web store. This is the part where the people around here who have not bought one of Roland's book rush to island computers web site and buy one. ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: yyyc186 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Book Wins award Message-ID: <1ff14957-7bb5-42c1-babf-40d0ee53d659@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> On Oct 21, 1:59=A0am, IanMiller wrote: > On 20 Oct, 18:36, yyyc186 wrote: > > > The Minimum You Need to Know About Service Orieted Architecture by > > Roland Hughes > > > Award-Winner in the Business: Technology/Computers/Internet category > > of the National Best Books 2008 Awards, sponsored by USA Book News > > > You can find this book in Island Computer's Web store. > > This is the part where the people around here who have not bought one > of Roland's book rush to island computers web site and buy one. > ... ROFLMAO Somehow I doubt that will happen Ian, but thanks for the thought! Roland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:24:57 GMT From: gerry77@no.spam.mail.com Subject: Re: SMGRTL patch available on ITRC ftp site Message-ID: <003sf4psscnk3ml8s1hagb51v9o6s4b1rl@4ax.com> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:00:10 -0700 (PDT), IanMiller wrote: > V5.5-2 is not affected. Are you sure? What about the following? $ show process/privileges 21-OCT-2008 18:54:16.86 User: BUGTEST Process ID: 00000217 Process name: "BUGTEST" Process privileges: TMPMBX may create temporary mailbox NETMBX may create network device Process rights: INTERACTIVE REMOTE $ show system VAX/VMS V5.5-2 on node EREBUS 21-OCT-2008 18:54:19.45 Uptime 0 01:09:21 Pid Process Name State Pri I/O CPU Page flts Ph.Mem 00000201 SWAPPER HIB 16 0 0 00:00:00.72 0 0 (...) $ directory sys$help:vax*.release_notes Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP] VAXACRT09_061.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXBOOT01_061.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXCDU01_061.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXCLIU02_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXCLIU03_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXDISM01_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXDRIV04_070.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXDRIV12_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXF11X03_070.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXF11X06_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXINIT01_070.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXINST2_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXLAVC04_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXLBR01_061.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXMANA04_070.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXMONT04_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXMSCP09_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXODS1_01_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXPHV10_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXPRTS02_070.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXQMAN03_070.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXSCSI03_061.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXSHAD09_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXSHAD12_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXSYS06_070.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXSYS17_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXSYSL20_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 VAXY2K01_U2055.RELEASE_NOTES;1 Total of 28 files. $ analyze/image/interactive sys$share:smgshr.exe (...) Image Identification Information image name: "SMGSHR" image file identification: "V05-003" link date/time: 8-JUL-1992 00:50:52.33 linker identification: "05-13" (...) $ show terminal Terminal: _RTA2: Device_Type: VT102 Owner: BUGTEST (...) $ set terminal/device_type=unknown $ show terminal Terminal: _RTA2: Device_Type: Unknown Owner: BUGTEST (...) $ show logical sysuaf/full "SYSUAF" [exec] = "SYS$SYSTEM:SYSUAF.DAT" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) $ run sys$system:authorize %UAF-E-NAOFIL, unable to open system authorization file (SYSUAF.DAT) -RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation $ define sysuaf sys$login:testuaf.dat $ show logical sysuaf/full "SYSUAF" [super] = "SYS$LOGIN:TESTUAF.DAT" (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE) "SYSUAF" [exec] = "SYS$SYSTEM:SYSUAF.DAT" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) $ run sys$system:authorize %UAF-E-NAOFIL, unable to open system authorization file (SYSUAF.DAT) -RMS-E-FNF, file not found Do you want to create a new file? yes UAF> 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 67890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 67890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 67890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 67890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 67890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 678901234567890123456789012345678901(up, up, up, @@@@) %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=01, virtual address=40404040, PC =80000010, PSL=03C00004 Improperly handled condition, image exit forced. Signal arguments Stack contents Number = 00000005 8029AC40 Name = 0000000C 00000002 00000001 7FEFD874 40404040 7FEFD85C 80000010 00000004 03C00004 7FEFDB80 00000000 415B1B41 00000000 05000001 Register dump R0 = 03C00000 R1 = 40404040 R2 = 00015000 R3 = 00000020 R4 = 00000000 R5 = 0000901D R6 = 00020000 R7 = 0000F4B8 R8 = 0000DE5D R9 = 7FEFDD14 R10= 00000001 R11= 7FEFDD14 AP = 7FEFD810 FP = 7FEFD7D0 SP = 7FEFD84C PC = 80000010 PSL= 03C00004 $ install list/full authorize DISK$EREBUS_SYS:.EXE AUTHORIZE;3 Prv Entry access count = 2 Privileges = CMKRNL --- Same thing appens with SYSMAN, NCP, MAIL, etc. It doesn't happen with INSTALL. HTH, G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:07:36 -0700 (PDT) From: dooleys@snowy.net.au Subject: Re: Using Fortran to generate graphics Message-ID: On Oct 20, 1:47=A0pm, PR wrote: > I was directed to an interesting task today. I need to process a very > large dataset and create a series of graphics from them. The data set > is oceanic environmental data and they want to see the data overlayed > on sat shots of the ocean. > > Fun. :) > > Since the graphics do not have to be real time, I was thinking of > doing it on a VMS system (IA64). I was wondering if anyone would care > to share their thoughts on how doable this is, and on any graphics > libraries available for Fortran 90. They grpahics need to be in some > hi-res format, but at a minimum, a TIFF will do I suppose. The sat > shots are coming in as TIFFs. > > There is no hurry on this, I have several weeks to propose the "how" > and several months to actually "do." > > Thanks > -Paul > > P.S. By "very large", I mean the data to overlay for each sat shot is > just shy of a terabyte. > > -Paul The traditional method is to use GKS it seems it even made it to the IA64 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/gks.html Phil ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.569 ************************