INFO-VAX Fri, 21 Nov 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 630 Contents: Re: 150 year Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Re: Emulation Re: How do I find out if my dedicated server is a VM Re: How do I find out if my dedicated server is a VM Re: How do I find out if my dedicated server is a VM Installing memory Re: Installing memory Re: Installing memory Re: Installing memory Re: Installing memory Re: Installing memory Re: Installing memory OpenVMS, eXursion, Laptop Re: OT: Former VMS guy need small free database Re: OT: Former VMS guy need small free database Re: OVMS NetBeans IDE Error Re: OVMS NetBeans IDE Error SWS APACHE$DCL_SYNC logical test - please ignore Re: test - please ignore ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 Nov 2008 19:35:51 GMT From: "Bob Eager" Subject: Re: 150 year Message-ID: <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-4TuE4YobF7Fg@rikki.tavi.co.uk> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:38:05 UTC, "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Bob Eager wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:03:15 UTC, Johnny Billquist > > wrote: > > > >> Yup. No real problem dealing with 64 bit integers on a VAX. > >> > >>>> The Unix system time is just seconds in a 32 bit integer and it > >>>> simplifies arithmetic being done. > >>> That is the old way. > >>> > >>> Unix - 32 bit time - 1970 > >>> VMS - 64 bit time - 1978 > >>> Windows NT - 64 bit time - 1993 > >>> Java - 64 bit time - 1995 > >>> .NET - 64 bit time - 2000 > >> One more interesting question here is of course the resolution of that time. > >> On Unix, it's a second. > > > > No, not necessarily. You may be confusing the C library function time(), > > which only needs a resolution of a second on any platform, with whatever > > system call provides time. The C standard provides no way of using the > > result of time() (a time_t) to get anything better than a second, so > > that's all time_t needs to be able to hold.. > > > >> Looking at NetBSD, pretty current, it appears to still have time_t defined as a > >> long, and that's 32 bits on all platforms. > > > > It doesn't define what value it's based at, and it doesn't need to. It > > (the base) could be changed and it would not break a correct program. > > This is just the C library. > > > > However, looking at BSD (FreeBSD is what I'm looking at, as it happens), > > the underlying system call, gettimeofday() works down to microseconds. > > > > On Solaris 8 it's possible to read micro seconds from the clock. I no > longer recall the details but I once wrote a five or six line program > that read the clock twice in succession and the difference between the > two readings was one microsecond. That system call has been around since BSD 4.2, so well over 20 years. It may well be part of POSIX. As I said, there's confusion in this thread between what UNIX does, and what the C library does. -- Bob Eager Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:10:27 +0000 (UTC) From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Subject: Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Message-ID: Michael Austin writes: >FrankS wrote: >> On Nov 18, 3:59 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) >> wrote: >>> There's a company that's been selling a whole bunch of Itanium rx2600 >>> systems on Ebay, for as low as $100 each (without management processor >>> card) or $250 for ones with it. Has anyone here grabbed one and put VMS >>> on it? >> >> I did, back when they were selling as an open auction, and I payed a >> lot more. I believe many others here picked on (or two) up during the >> $399 phase. OpenVMS works fine, installed without issues. By the >> book. >> >> I think the management processor connector wasn't plugged in on mine >> (vague recollection) and I updated all the firmware first. >> >> At $250 they're even more of a bargain then when I bought one. You >> will need to get a DVD player, but I got one on eBay as well. >Hope you didn't pay very much for the DVD on ebay -local shop in KC >area has them for ~$25.00. The $100 starting price units they've been selling the last several days do include the DVD drive. The $250 units don't, but include the management processor card. I wonder where they all came from. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:24:34 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Message-ID: <00A82EAC.8E1E1031@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) writes: >Michael Austin writes: > >>FrankS wrote: >>> On Nov 18, 3:59 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) >>> wrote: >>>> There's a company that's been selling a whole bunch of Itanium rx2600 >>>> systems on Ebay, for as low as $100 each (without management processor >>>> card) or $250 for ones with it. Has anyone here grabbed one and put VMS >>>> on it? >>> >>> I did, back when they were selling as an open auction, and I payed a >>> lot more. I believe many others here picked on (or two) up during the >>> $399 phase. OpenVMS works fine, installed without issues. By the >>> book. >>> >>> I think the management processor connector wasn't plugged in on mine >>> (vague recollection) and I updated all the firmware first. >>> >>> At $250 they're even more of a bargain then when I bought one. You >>> will need to get a DVD player, but I got one on eBay as well. > > >>Hope you didn't pay very much for the DVD on ebay -local shop in KC >>area has them for ~$25.00. > >The $100 starting price units they've been selling the last several days >do include the DVD drive. The $250 units don't, but include the >management processor card. > >I wonder where they all came from. HP -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:40:57 +0000 (UTC) From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Subject: Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Message-ID: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: >In article , moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) writes: >> >>The $100 starting price units they've been selling the last several days >>do include the DVD drive. The $250 units don't, but include the >>management processor card. >> >>I wonder where they all came from. >HP Ha. ha. ha. I asked because this guy has sold dozens, maybe 100 so far, and more keep coming. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:11:59 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Anyone want a ride on the SS Itanic? Message-ID: <001587f2$0$6617$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Michael Moroney wrote: > I asked because this guy has sold dozens, maybe 100 so far, and more keep > coming. When Sanger completed the genome project, they had a few hundred DS10Ls that were no longer needed. Guess where they went ? It is posisble that those IA64 boxes were used in some similar supercomputing setup which has been replaced, and a couple hundred of those boxes being dumped on ebay. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:12:35 GMT From: John Santos Subject: Re: Emulation Message-ID: Wilm Boerhout wrote: > PR vaguely mentioned on 17-11-2008 9:14: > >> On Nov 16, 11:51 pm, Wilm Boerhout wrote: > > >>> [snip] > > >> That was kind of the issue in the first place. >> >> When you pay $35K for high end tape drives sitting in a high end >> library behind a high end virtual tape library, you sort of do not >> want to use some standalone tape drive on a PC class machine, nor do >> you really want to give that PC uncoordinated access to the tape >> library. (Tivoli can coordinate access, and perform 'Lan Free' >> backups.) >> >> And that is not uncommon in today's shops by the way. We manage so >> much storage, that enterprise wide backup with disaster recovery >> control is almost an absolute necessity. Any machine that doesn't fit >> into that well is not looked on with favor. > > > Well, I guess for every solution proposed there is a shop where the > solution doesn't fit :-) I'd rather work the other way 'round: look at > the shop and discuss which solution will fit. As I said before, we > usually work something out. And remember: Cheap, Secure, Easy, pick any > two, but not three... > > /Wilm I'm not sure if people are assuming Tivoli isn't available for VMS or that if available, backups would be too slow due to emulation overhead accessing the network. A Tivoli client *is* available for VMS and one of my customers uses it in a larger data center (where our application is running on one little Alphaserver 4500 in the corner.) It seems to work just fine, and looks to be pretty up-to-date. (The Alpha is running VMS 8.3) I haven't ever tried it on an emulator, though. HTH. -- John Santos Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:47:44 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gezelter Subject: Re: How do I find out if my dedicated server is a VM Message-ID: On Nov 20, 11:48=A0am, petethebloke wrote: > On 20 Nov, 16:32, petethebloke wrote: > > > If I had a dedicated server, how would I be able to satisfy myself > > that > > it is not a VM on a box running 5 other "dedicated servers"? Let's > > just assume - for this hypothesis - that it was a Win 2003 install > > and my access was by Terminal services; but equally, I'd like to know > > how to find out in the case of a Red Hat install. > > > Thanks, > > > Pete > > Oops. I think this is off-topic - you folks are into VMS not VMs > aren't you? > > Sorry. Pete, Actually, it is even more complex. Suppose your "dedicated" server (with two processors) is running as a guest along with five other two-processor guest instances on a 32- processor VM host. Is that a problem? There would only be 12 processors being used out of the 32 in the system. There are a wide variety of shades of gray here, and the answers are far more complex than simply "am I running as a VM guest". - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:57:47 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: How do I find out if my dedicated server is a VM Message-ID: Bob Gezelter wrote: > On Nov 20, 11:48 am, petethebloke wrote: >> On 20 Nov, 16:32, petethebloke wrote: >> >>> If I had a dedicated server, how would I be able to satisfy myself >>> that >>> it is not a VM on a box running 5 other "dedicated servers"? Let's >>> just assume - for this hypothesis - that it was a Win 2003 install >>> and my access was by Terminal services; but equally, I'd like to know >>> how to find out in the case of a Red Hat install. >>> Thanks, >>> Pete >> Oops. I think this is off-topic - you folks are into VMS not VMs >> aren't you? >> >> Sorry. > > Pete, > > Actually, it is even more complex. > > Suppose your "dedicated" server (with two processors) is running as a > guest along with five other two-processor guest instances on a 32- > processor VM host. > > Is that a problem? There would only be 12 processors being used out of > the 32 in the system. > > There are a wide variety of shades of gray here, and the answers are > far more complex than simply "am I running as a VM guest". > > - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com And isn't the whole point with "running as a VM guest" that you should not *have* to know ? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:40:50 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: How do I find out if my dedicated server is a VM Message-ID: <49260388$0$90262$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > Bob Gezelter wrote: >> On Nov 20, 11:48 am, petethebloke wrote: >>> On 20 Nov, 16:32, petethebloke wrote: >>>> If I had a dedicated server, how would I be able to satisfy myself >>>> that >>>> it is not a VM on a box running 5 other "dedicated servers"? Let's >>>> just assume - for this hypothesis - that it was a Win 2003 install >>>> and my access was by Terminal services; but equally, I'd like to know >>>> how to find out in the case of a Red Hat install. >>> Oops. I think this is off-topic - you folks are into VMS not VMs >>> aren't you? >> Actually, it is even more complex. >> >> Suppose your "dedicated" server (with two processors) is running as a >> guest along with five other two-processor guest instances on a 32- >> processor VM host. >> >> Is that a problem? There would only be 12 processors being used out of >> the 32 in the system. >> >> There are a wide variety of shades of gray here, and the answers are >> far more complex than simply "am I running as a VM guest". > > And isn't the whole point with "running as a VM guest" > that you should not *have* to know ? :-) Functionally it should not matter. Performance wise it can matter. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: "James J. O'Shea" Subject: Installing memory Message-ID: <210159.80573.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have an ES45 running OpenVMS v8.3 I will be installing memory in a few weeks. When completed our system will have double the capacity, from 8Gb to 16Gb. Do I need to run Autogen before and after the installation? I've been looking for documentation in regards to that topic but have come up short. Thanks, Jim O'Shea Chicago, IL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:25:53 -0500 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Installing memory Message-ID: James J. O'Shea wrote: > I have an ES45 running OpenVMS v8.3 > > I will be installing memory in a few weeks. When completed our system will have double the capacity, from 8Gb to 16Gb. > > Do I need to run Autogen before and after the installation? I've been looking for documentation in regards to that topic but have come up short. > > Thanks, > Jim O'Shea > Chicago, IL I don't see what good running AUTOGEN *before* the upgrade would do. After the upgrade, running AUTOGEN is a must if you want to get the full benefit from your new memory. Review your MODPARAMS.DAT file. You may want to revise it, especially if you are allocating resources affected by memory size. After you have been running for a few days with the additional memory, you may want to run AUTOGEN again. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:21:33 -0800 (PST) From: sean@obanion.us Subject: Re: Installing memory Message-ID: <63150e48-4b56-4b35-9ef2-195188dc9af8@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com> A good review of the meaning of the options to AUTOGEN would be a good place to start reading. Running AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS TESTFILES FEEDBACK would ensure that current feedback data is available. A thorough investigation of the resulting AGEN$PARAMS.REPORT and fixing any poor values in MODPARAMS.DAT before the upgrade might avoid problems blamed on the upgrade... After the memory is installed AUTOGEN GETDATA TESTFILES FEEDBACK should bring the old feedback data in and include the new memory, and another review of AGEN$PARAMS.REPORT would be useful. Sean On Nov 20, 3:25=A0pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > James J. O'Shea wrote: > > I have an ES45 running OpenVMS v8.3 > > > I will be installing memory in a few weeks. =A0When completed our syste= m will have double the capacity, from 8Gb to 16Gb. > > > Do I need to run Autogen before and after the installation? =A0I've bee= n looking for documentation in regards to that topic but have come up short= . > > > Thanks, > > Jim O'Shea > > Chicago, IL > > I don't see what good running AUTOGEN *before* the upgrade would do. > After the upgrade, running AUTOGEN is a must if you want to get the full > benefit from your new memory. > > Review your MODPARAMS.DAT file. You may want to revise it, especially if > you are allocating resources affected by memory size. =A0After you have > been running for a few days with the additional memory, you may want to > run AUTOGEN again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:33:01 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Installing memory Message-ID: <00A82ECF.438C38D9@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" writes: >James J. O'Shea wrote: >> I have an ES45 running OpenVMS v8.3 >> >> I will be installing memory in a few weeks. When completed our system will have double the capacity, from 8Gb to 16Gb. >> >> Do I need to run Autogen before and after the installation? I've been looking for documentation in regards to that topic but have come up short. No before. No after. >> >> Thanks, >> Jim O'Shea >> Chicago, IL > >I don't see what good running AUTOGEN *before* the upgrade would do. >After the upgrade, running AUTOGEN is a must if you want to get the full >benefit from your new memory. Your memory will be available for use simply by virtue of installing it. Will the system make the most of it? Who knows? We certainly don't know your environment, or what you are or plan to do that you are adding addi- tional memory. Perhaps you'd care to share a little more about your en- vironment and applications. >Review your MODPARAMS.DAT file. You may want to revise it, especially if >you are allocating resources affected by memory size. After you have >been running for a few days with the additional memory, you may want to >run AUTOGEN again. AUTOGEN, out of the box, does not, IMHO, do a good job of tuning a system. It's sometimes fair but it is far from ideal. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:56:50 -0500 From: "Jilly" Subject: Re: Installing memory Message-ID: <49262371$0$2830$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com> "James J. O'Shea" wrote in message news:210159.80573.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com... >I have an ES45 running OpenVMS v8.3 > > I will be installing memory in a few weeks. When completed our system > will have double the capacity, from 8Gb to 16Gb. > > Do I need to run Autogen before and after the installation? I've been > looking for documentation in regards to that topic but have come up short. > > Thanks, > Jim O'Shea > Chicago, IL You certainly can execute AUTOGEN before the update. Search AUTOGEN.COM for the MEMSIZE keyword for MODPARAMS.DAT. Just be sure to execute the SAVPARAMS phase when the system is at it's peak usage. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:15:38 -0500 From: "Jilly" Subject: Re: Installing memory Message-ID: <492627d9$0$2165$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com> "Jilly" wrote in message news:49262371$0$2830$ec3e2dad@unlimited.usenetmonster.com... > > "James J. O'Shea" wrote in message > news:210159.80573.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com... >>I have an ES45 running OpenVMS v8.3 >> >> I will be installing memory in a few weeks. When completed our system >> will have double the capacity, from 8Gb to 16Gb. >> >> Do I need to run Autogen before and after the installation? I've been >> looking for documentation in regards to that topic but have come up >> short. >> >> Thanks, >> Jim O'Shea >> Chicago, IL > > You certainly can execute AUTOGEN before the update. Search AUTOGEN.COM > for the MEMSIZE keyword for MODPARAMS.DAT. Just be sure to execute the > SAVPARAMS phase when the system is at it's peak usage. My apologies. MEMSIZE is a VAX only keyword. No capability is built into AUTOGEN for Alpha or I64 to execute AUTOGEN with a future memory size in mind. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:22:16 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Installing memory Message-ID: <00122285$0$12327$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Jilly wrote: > My apologies. MEMSIZE is a VAX only keyword. No capability is built into > AUTOGEN for Alpha or I64 to execute AUTOGEN with a future memory size in > mind. And as I recall, MEMSIZE was reserved for testing purposes and not recommended for permanent use. It was meant to be able to simulate small memory systems on hardware that had a lot of memory. I am personally not sure of the usefullness of running AUTOGEN *before* adding memory. My gut feeling is to add memory, run autogen, run with it for week and then run autogen with the feedback to see if any additional changes would be warranted. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:15:13 -0800 (PST) From: sccr13plyr@gmail.com Subject: OpenVMS, eXursion, Laptop Message-ID: Hello, I have started working again with OpenVMS after a four year exile. The environment I am at uses Refelctions X, but apparently they are having problems getting approval for new licenses. So, I remembered that we could use eXcursion and have setup that for my use. Unfortunately, that means reinventing the wheel here and there instead of scavenging from other people's setup. Does anyone have a custom keydef file for eXcursion? I have an IBM ThinkPad laptop and would at the very least like my Home and End keys to map to Ctrl-H and Ctrl-E respectively (plus any other keys people find useful with DECTerm). TIA sccr13plyr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:17:33 -0700 From: Randy Park Subject: Re: OT: Former VMS guy need small free database Message-ID: Randy Park wrote: > ..... > > >> >> OpenOffice is build on top of HSQLDB, but you don't like that. >> > > > > The problem with HSQLDB is that every table requires a primary index > that is a unique integer. I could live with that ( a sequence number ) > if the column could remain hidden when the end user is adding rows to > the table, but the form development process doesn't support the > automatic entry of a unique number into a column. This means when the > end user goes to add a row to the table they must enter a unique integer > value for the column that is the primary index. The primary index > cannot be deleted or redfined. If you succeed in created a table > without the primary index, then you cannot add any rows to the table. > > If it wasn't for this strange limitation I could probably live with > their reporting and form design. > > Thanks anyway. I've been using a year old copy of Open Office. I just looked at the web page for HSQLDB and it doesn't appear to have the restrictions on the database table definition that OO is enforcing. So I'm thinking that a current version of OO is in order and maybe OO will support the capabilities of HSQLDB. HSQLDB under OO is attractive because it is easy to install on Windoze and the HSQLDB database is a single file, thus making it easy to transfer the entire application to someone else. Thanks for you help. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:09:01 -0700 From: Keith Parris Subject: Re: OT: Former VMS guy need small free database Message-ID: Randy Park wrote: > The problem with HSQLDB is that every table requires a primary index > that is a unique integer. I could live with that ( a sequence number ) > if the column could remain hidden when the end user is adding rows to > the table, but the form development process doesn't support the > automatic entry of a unique number into a column. I'm certainly not an expert, but a friend of mine used OpenOffice 3.0 recently to set up a new database for his church and he had a field in the form set as "auto-increment" which seemed to provide the unique number needed. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:22:51 -0800 (PST) From: sccr13plyr@gmail.com Subject: Re: OVMS NetBeans IDE Error Message-ID: <78a0f759-7715-4a41-bc81-38de802cf680@r40g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> > > =A0sccr13p...@gmail.com wrote: > >> java.rmi.ConnectIOException: error during JRMP connection > >> establishment; nested exception is: > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: Remote host close= d > >> connection during handshake > > > =A0 =A0If that's on the server end, then the server thinks the client > > =A0 =A0closed the connection. > > > =A0 =A0It's not clear to me: =A0the server is on VMS and the client is = on > > =A0 =A0what? > > Could be any platform supported by Netbeans. > Usualy an standard PC/Windows box... We are using OpenVMS I64 v8.3-1H1 which is running the Distributed NetBeans IDE$SERVER process. I installed NetBeans 5.5.1 on my Windows laptop with HP NetBeans Module (no other modules). Installing NetBeans required me to install JDK (6.10 not the unsupported 6.04). The OVMS box and my laptop are in two different states. However, I am given to understand that the network should appear as a normal LAN. The error message I posted is the popup on the Windows client and I have provided text from the OVMS IDE$SERVER log. We could assume that somehow the socket is getting closed due to a network thing, but supposedly it should be a plain LAN. Any suggestion for investigating that avenue? Or, there is something else going on in the handshake that causes the socket handler to "default" to closed socket. Not having looked at the Java SSL implementation source code, I don't know if this is a possibility. Could different Java versions between Server and Client be a culprit? sccrplyr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:37:24 +0100 From: Jur van der Burg <"lddriver at digiater dot nl"> Subject: Re: OVMS NetBeans IDE Error Message-ID: <49265724$0$187$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> The fastest way to troubleshot this is to use a network sniffer and find out what's going over the line. Jur. sccr13plyr@gmail.com wrote: >>> sccr13p...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> java.rmi.ConnectIOException: error during JRMP connection >>>> establishment; nested exception is: >>>> javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: Remote host closed >>>> connection during handshake >>> If that's on the server end, then the server thinks the client >>> closed the connection. >>> It's not clear to me: the server is on VMS and the client is on >>> what? >> Could be any platform supported by Netbeans. >> Usualy an standard PC/Windows box... > > We are using OpenVMS I64 v8.3-1H1 which is running the Distributed > NetBeans IDE$SERVER process. I installed NetBeans 5.5.1 on my Windows > laptop with HP NetBeans Module (no other modules). Installing > NetBeans required me to install JDK (6.10 not the unsupported 6.04). > > The OVMS box and my laptop are in two different states. However, I am > given to understand that the network should appear as a normal LAN. > > The error message I posted is the popup on the Windows client and I > have provided text from the OVMS IDE$SERVER log. > > We could assume that somehow the socket is getting closed due to a > network thing, but supposedly it should be a plain LAN. Any > suggestion for investigating that avenue? > > Or, there is something else going on in the handshake that causes the > socket handler to "default" to closed socket. Not having looked at > the Java SSL implementation source code, I don't know if this is a > possibility. Could different Java versions between Server and Client > be a culprit? > > sccrplyr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:35:37 -0700 From: John Nebel Subject: SWS APACHE$DCL_SYNC logical Message-ID: <4925BC09.9090407@csdco.com> Greetings, Has anyone figured out a workaround for Apache looping on logical name translations on the apache$dcl_sync logical name? This can cause a severe performance problem. From SDA: 6-MAR 11:55:27.182282 03 4DF1DF06 APACHE_HTTPD 000FA418 APACHE$DCL_SYNC_4DFAA98B 6-MAR 11:55:27.182266 03 4DF1DF06 APACHE_HTTPD 000FA418 APACHE$DCL_SYNC_4DFAA98B 6-MAR 11:55:27.182250 03 4DF1DF06 APACHE_HTTPD 000FA418 APACHE$DCL_SYNC_4DFAA98B 6-MAR 11:55:27.182235 03 4DF1DF06 APACHE_HTTPD 000FA418 APACHE$DCL_SYNC_4DFAA98B Thanks, John Nebel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:23:10 +0200 From: "Guy Peleg" Subject: test - please ignore Message-ID: <11699$4926299c$16588@news.teranews.com> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:19:41 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: test - please ignore Message-ID: <001221ea$0$12327$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Guy Peleg wrote: > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** How can I ignore a post from Guido Peleg ? :-) ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.630 ************************