From: HENRY::IN%"cetron%ced%cs.utah.edu%kl.sri.com%csnet-relay.CSNET%relay.cs.net@RCA.COM" 6-JUN-1987 17:40 To: FSIMMONS%UMNDUL.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu, info-vax@kl.sri.com Subj: Re: apple-talk and microvax II as I recall, the standard vaxlab configurations come with a deqna and will be able to access the network. The single user license means only one user logged on a time. VMS doesn't care where the user is logged on from but it used to check the number of users. I don't remember whether that has been changed in v4.6 which will likely come with the vaxlab if it takes more than another month (at least we HOPE v4.6 will be out then)...oh yes, the vaxlab DOES come with end node decnet. as for appletalk to ethernet the best approach is to use the kinetics fast path appletalk to ethernet interface. if the vaxlab runs vms (which i assumed) you can use the following software: From cetron Mon Mar 30 11:41:16 1987 Received: by utah-ced.ARPA (5.31/4.40.2) id AA02331; Mon, 30 Mar 87 11:41:14 MST Date: Mon, 30 Mar 87 11:41:14 MST From: cetron (Ed Cetron) Message-Id: <8703301841.AA02331@utah-ced.ARPA> To: sr16@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: vms fileservers for mac's Cc: cetron Status: R Seth, We are using the appletalk for vms software provided by alisa systems in pasadena..... Much more info can be gotten from them directly: Alisa Systems, Inc. 221 E. Walnut St., Suite 230 Pasadena, Ca 91101 818 - 792-9474 (if you call please mention that you got there info via me on the arpanet, this is NOT for kickbacks - I have no association 'cept as satisfied customer - but I am trying to convince them to get an internet/usenet link of some kind....) Any way a quick summary: 1. fileserver - somewhat slower than a local floppy, but adequate...allows up to 15 volumes (floppy equivalents) per server (and you can have multiple servers per vax). Each volume appears to the mac user as a seperate volume icon on the desktop. Volumes can be password protected, or marked as readonly. Additionaly, 'temp' files (such as word temps, excel resume files, etc) are coded by the 'username' picked in the chooser upon startup. Desktop files are also coded this way so different people can have different format desktops in the same partition. 2. File Server Utility - allows files to be imported/exported from the vms file system. This allows dir of the various files on the mac volumes and manipulation of them..... I have been able to have out sect'ys compose letters under word 3.0, then save them on the fileserver volumes, picked them up, and brought them over to vms and subsequently sent them over the arpanet.....I have also been able to use fsu to recover word temp files when word 3.0 crashes. 3. laser spooler support - you can set up several laser spoolers which look just like laserwriters to the mac's but will spool the output and then send it back out to laserwriters out on the appletalk network. Utilities also exist to allow users on other decnetted machines (or even the actual server vms machine) to spool files out to the appletalk laserwriters. An option exists to spool files that are already postscript. Additionaly, we have a unix vax send via ftp postscript output from the Adobe Transcript package to out vms file server and have it spool these files out to the laserwriters. All is all, it is a very good package, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the people at alisa will a) answer the phone, and b) talk to you and help you. As the administrator of a facility, the service after the sale is as critical as the sale itself - and these people are good.... ( in the future, they will support remote decnet login from the mac, as well as remote decnet task 'linking' - maybe for mail type stuff.....) -ed cetron Computer Services Manager Center for Engineering Design Univ of Utah cetron@utah-cs.arpa \ -ed cetron computer systems manager center for engineering design cetron@cs.utah.edu cetron@utahcca.bitnet