From: Mark Daniel [Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:54 AM
To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
Subject: Re: Status of MySQL and Postgres ports?

Hey Jean-François,

good to see your script (and the results of your efforts).  Here's one 
(perhaps for Bill Todd - why not ;^).  Why does it appear that Europeans 
have a greater respect and involvement in supporting VMS (in recent 
non-official, non-HPQ ports at least) than those elsewhere?  We're 
certainly interested in evidence to the contrary.  Can it be that Bill 
Gates really does represent the epitomy of capitalist, free-market 
enterprise, so often touted as representing the effective mores of the 
free world (and thereby having the covert respect of even the most 
ardent domestic critic).  In contrast to the Linus Torvolds and - dare I 
say it - Richard Stallmans of this world?  These wish to socialise 
software (and perhaps other things).  I'm not sure.

Perhaps my entire thinking is presently colo(u)red by a recent viewing 
of the the cinema adaptation of Graham Greene's, The Quiet Americian. 
Which as a (I know as an off-topic) piece of cinema is a marvelous 
production by Miramax (IMHO; this company produces so many great 
USA-based movies - sorry Bill (whomever), no citations).  It is also 
compulsive viewing for the serious cinema goer (sorry, again no 
citations).  JPPO.  Enjoy.

Still; perhaps I'm a little (technologically and culturally) confused by 
all this.  Or is it just that people (everywhere) prefer not to pay for 
the intellectual property they use?  Hmmm. Woops.

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Jean-François PIÉRONNE wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> 
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I noticed some messages toward the end of last year on a few projects for
>>porting MySQL and PostgreSQL to OpenVMS.
>>
>>I'm just wondering what the status of these is and if there are any home
>>pages for the projects.
>>
>>Thanks for any info.
>>
> 
> 
> The port of MySQL 4.0.9 gamma is done, our work will not be include into the
> official distribution until MySQL 4.1 because 4.0 is frozen.
> 
> We will provide a better kit during the forthcoming week.
> 
> Status of some of our others ports:
> 
> IPFilter: canceled
> 
> SWISH 2.2.3: port include into the official distribution (http://swish-e.org/),
> a kit (2.2.1) can be download from http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/, this package
> include SWISHesi developed by Mark Daniel.
> From the main page:
> SWISH-E is a fast, powerful, flexible, free, and easy to use system for indexing
> collections of Web pages or other files.
> 
> An example can be found on my site (http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/search.html) it
> include VMS, Rdb and some others products documentation.
> 
> 
> SWIG 1.3.16: port include into the official distribution (http://www.swig.org/)
> From the main page:
> SWIG is a software development tool that connects programs written in C and C++
> with a variety
> of high-level programming languages. SWIG is primarily used with common
> scripting languages
> such as Perl, Python, Tcl/Tk, Ruby, Guile and MzScheme, however the list of
> supported
> languages also includes non-scripting languages such as Java and OCAML. SWIG is
> most
> commonly used to create high-level interpreted programming environments, user
> interfaces, and as
> a tool for testing and prototyping C/C++ software. SWIG may be freely used,
> distributed, and
> modified for commercial and noncommercial use. 
> 
> I have used it to build the Python OpenVMS RTL interface
> (documentation at  http://vmspython.dyndns.org/docs/python_vms/python_vms.html)
> 
> 
> 
> Python 2.3: licensing problem,
> The previous maintainer had put on his work an license which is incompatible
> with the PSF (Python Software Fundation) license, it is not clear if he has
> break the PSF license, we are investigating this.
> It appear that he has absolutely no concern for the VMS (and Python) community
> and he want to block any distribution of Python on VMS. If I have correctly
> understood the problem,  if you want to build a Python for OpenVMS distribution
> you have the choice to violate the PSF license or his license.
> So, currently, it seem impossible to have a Python for VMS.
> If someone has a solution he is welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Samba 2.2.7.a: port done by my colleague Jean-Yves Collot, this is the latest
> Samba version, which include support for ODS5 and many enhancement. Kits and
> informations on http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/jyc/
> If you have any questions about Samba on VMS please use the mailing list
> (samba-vms@lists.samba.org), Jean-Yves is an active member of it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jean-François