Everhart, Glenn (FUSA) From: Tim Shoppa [SHOPPA@trailing-edge.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 5:31 PM To: GlennEverhart@FirstUSA.com Subject: RE: UK: Where can I buy TK50 media? >It's a continual amazement in some ways how little data fit on all those >tapes. The first RSX SIG tape was around 10,000 blocks and we thought it >would be the last "really big" one since it had the CARTS library on it. >Was THAT ever a mistake. :-). As far as size statistics go, below are the listings of the first two savesets on the 4mm I'm sending you. Multiply sizes by two (or more) for uncompressed numbers. It is interesting to note that the RSX SIG tapes did indeed start out large - It took a long time for the other SIG's to catch up :-). You'll also note that the tapes from Don Arrowsmith and Tom Wyantt aren't identical. If you compare the BRU listings you'll see that the differences are minor. Also note that Don Arrowsmith has reformatted the very earliest SIG tapes from Exchange format to BRU. If you really want to be original, Alan Frisbie has given me .TPC's of some of the Exchange format tapes. Listing of save set(s) Save set: RSXSIG.DON Written by: SYSTEM UIC: [000001,000004] Date: 23-APR-1999 20:59:28.17 Command: BACKUP *.* MKA400:RSXSIG.DON/VERIFY/LIST=[-]RSXSIG.DONLST/IGNORE=LABEL Operating system: OpenVMS AXP version V7.0 BACKUP version: V6.2 CPU ID register: 80000000 Node name: _TIMAXP:: Written on: _TIMAXP$MKA400: Block size: 8192 Group size: 10 Buffer count: 205 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX77B.TPC_LIST;1 132 6-DEC-1997 10:45 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX77B.TPC_ZIP;1 6738 6-DEC-1997 10:47 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX78A.TPC_LIST;1 112 6-DEC-1997 10:45 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX78A.TPC_ZIP;1 6109 6-DEC-1997 11:01 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX78B.TPC_LIST;1 98 6-DEC-1997 10:45 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX78B.TPC_ZIP;1 4424 6-DEC-1997 11:14 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX79A.TPC_LIST;1 174 6-DEC-1997 10:46 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX79A.TPC_ZIP;1 6976 6-DEC-1997 11:22 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX79B.TPC_LIST;1 137 6-DEC-1997 10:46 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX79B.TPC_ZIP;1 5012 6-DEC-1997 11:35 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX80A.TPC_LIST;1 218 6-DEC-1997 10:47 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX80A.TPC_ZIP;1 8880 6-DEC-1997 11:45 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX80B.TPC_LIST;1 226 6-DEC-1997 10:47 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX80B.TPC_ZIP;1 10779 6-DEC-1997 12:30 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX81A.TPC_LIST;1 287 6-DEC-1997 10:48 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX81A.TPC_ZIP;1 14847 6-DEC-1997 12:51 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX81B.TPC_LIST;1 188 6-DEC-1997 10:49 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX81B.TPC_ZIP;1 9873 6-DEC-1997 13:19 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX82A.TPC_LIST;1 265 6-DEC-1997 10:49 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX82A.TPC_ZIP;1 15672 6-DEC-1997 13:36 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX82B.TPC_LIST;1 259 6-DEC-1997 10:50 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX82B.TPC_ZIP;1 14607 6-DEC-1997 14:05 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX83A.TPC_LIST;1 186 6-DEC-1997 10:51 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX83A.TPC_ZIP;1 10625 6-DEC-1997 14:31 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX83B.TPC_LIST;1 214 6-DEC-1997 10:52 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX83B.TPC_ZIP;1 14824 6-DEC-1997 14:50 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX84A.TPC_LIST;1 185 6-DEC-1997 10:53 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX84A.TPC_ZIP;1 15214 6-DEC-1997 15:20 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX84B.TPC_LIST;1 283 6-DEC-1997 10:54 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX84B.TPC_ZIP;2 20461 6-DEC-1997 16:07 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX85A.TPC_LIST;1 198 6-DEC-1997 10:55 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX85A.TPC_ZIP;2 16206 6-DEC-1997 16:59 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX85B.TPC_LIST;1 348 6-DEC-1997 10:55 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX85B.TPC_ZIP;1 20806 6-DEC-1997 17:41 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX86A.TPC_LIST;1 281 6-DEC-1997 10:56 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX86A.TPC_ZIP;2 25818 6-DEC-1997 16:07 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX86B.TPC_LIST;1 253 6-DEC-1997 10:57 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX86B.TPC_ZIP;2 21092 6-DEC-1997 16:45 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX87A.TPC_LIST;1 362 6-DEC-1997 10:58 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX87A.TPC_ZIP;2 19724 6-DEC-1997 17:19 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX87B.TPC_LIST;1 149 6-DEC-1997 10:59 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX87B.TPC_ZIP;2 18897 6-DEC-1997 16:06 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX88A.TPC_LIST;1 27 6-DEC-1997 11:00 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX88A.TPC_ZIP;1 2439 6-DEC-1997 16:43 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX88B.TPC_LIST;1 73 6-DEC-1997 11:00 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX88B.TPC_ZIP;2 3765 6-DEC-1997 16:47 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX89A.TPC_LIST;1 197 6-DEC-1997 11:00 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX89A.TPC_ZIP;2 13637 6-DEC-1997 16:54 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX89B.TPC_LIST;1 101 6-DEC-1997 11:01 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX89B.TPC_ZIP;1 6950 6-DEC-1997 17:18 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX90A.TPC_LIST;1 26 6-DEC-1997 11:01 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX90A.TPC_ZIP;2 1584 6-DEC-1997 17:31 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX90B.TPC_LIST;1 68 6-DEC-1997 11:01 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX90B.TPC_ZIP;2 4479 6-DEC-1997 17:33 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX91B.TPC_LIST;1 10 6-DEC-1997 11:01 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.DON]RSX91B.TPC_ZIP;1 2424 6-DEC-1997 17:41 Total of 56 files, 327919 blocks End of save set Save set: RSXSIG.TOM Written by: SYSTEM UIC: [000001,000004] Date: 23-APR-1999 22:38:08.54 Command: BACKUP *.TPC_* MKA400:RSXSIG.TOM/VERIFY/LIST=[-]RSXSIG.TOMLST/IGNORE=LABEL/NOREWI Operating system: OpenVMS AXP version V7.0 BACKUP version: V6.2 CPU ID register: 80000000 Node name: _TIMAXP:: Written on: _TIMAXP$MKA400: Block size: 8192 Group size: 10 Buffer count: 205 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX83B1.TPC_LST;1 215 23-APR-1999 22:19 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX83B1.TPC_ZIP;1 14808 5-JAN-1997 18:23 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX83B2.TPC_LST;1 39 23-APR-1999 22:21 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX83B2.TPC_ZIP;1 4800 5-JAN-1997 18:59 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX84A1.TPC_LST;1 184 23-APR-1999 22:21 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX84A1.TPC_ZIP;1 15346 5-JAN-1997 19:21 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX84A2.TPC_LST;1 33 23-APR-1999 22:23 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX84A2.TPC_ZIP;1 4944 5-JAN-1997 20:14 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX84B.TPC_LST;1 281 23-APR-1999 22:23 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX84B.TPC_ZIP;1 20245 5-JAN-1997 20:28 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX85A.TPC_LST;1 193 23-APR-1999 22:25 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX85A.TPC_ZIP;1 14394 5-JAN-1997 21:17 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX86A.TPC_LST;1 281 23-APR-1999 22:26 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX86A.TPC_ZIP;1 25797 5-JAN-1997 21:48 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX86B.TPC_LST;1 254 23-APR-1999 22:28 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX86B.TPC_ZIP;1 21171 5-JAN-1997 22:40 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX87A.TPC_LST;1 362 23-APR-1999 22:30 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX87A.TPC_ZIP;1 19904 5-JAN-1997 23:25 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX87B.TPC_LST;1 149 23-APR-1999 22:32 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX87B.TPC_ZIP;1 18949 6-JAN-1997 00:11 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX88B.TPC_LST;1 73 23-APR-1999 22:33 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX88B.TPC_ZIP;1 3799 6-JAN-1997 00:57 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX89A.TPC_LST;1 197 23-APR-1999 22:34 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX89A.TPC_ZIP;1 13338 6-JAN-1997 01:06 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX89EUR.TPC_LST;1 204 23-APR-1999 22:35 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX89EUR.TPC_ZIP;1 16611 6-JAN-1997 01:36 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX90A.TPC_LST;1 27 23-APR-1999 22:36 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX90A.TPC_ZIP;1 1595 6-JAN-1997 02:14 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX90B.TPC_LST;1 68 23-APR-1999 22:37 [SHOPPA.PDP11.RSX.RSXSIG.TOM]RSX90B.TPC_ZIP;1 4548 6-JAN-1997 02:17 Total of 30 files, 202809 blocks End of save set -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa@trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 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